[ElkGroveDan]

Must be a mistake in reporting. Guns are totally banned in England, so we know that they've done away with crime.

[Pearls Before Swine]

That might not be the only mistake. New Zeland and Finland are, according to this article, supposed to be even worse. That doesn't sound right to me.

[NEWwoman]

Gun issue aside, aren't Britians in great peril from prosecution of the government if they attempt to defend themselves from criminals, period?

Criminals prey on the weak and helpless and the British government is a genious in ensuring everyone is weak and helpless.

[yankeedame]

Higher than in South Africa? Cheeze louise...!

[xlib]

Not only is crime up in England, the criminals are bolder. 53% of burgaries in England occur while the vicim is at home. By contrast, only 13% of US burglars strike while the victim is at home. They can argue that other factors affect the overall crime rate, but it's clear that the likelihood of armed resistance is the reason for the relative timidity of American burglars.

[samtheman]

All of Western Europe is playing the "lie about crime statistics" game. If the truth were fairly published, England wouldn't be the worst, just as bad as all the rest. In France, police ignore criminals to keep the arrest rates down.

[beaversmom]

Britain will just have to establish some more gun laws--it's obvious they just don't have enough.

[BenLurkin]

[aristeides]

Times sure have changed. When I studied in England 1972-4, it seemed extremely safe compared to the States.

[Neil E. Wright]

BANG and BUMP!

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Toward FREEDOM

[pabianice]

Another 'gun control' success story...

[general_re]

Only the Dominican Republic, New Zealand and Finland have higher crime rates than England and Wales.

Oops. Well, when Clark lets NZ society get a bit too 'Clockwork Orange'-ish, the backlash will be inevitable, I suppose... ;)

[Doctor Raoul]

AIN'T GUN CONTROL WONDERFUL?

[Man of the Right]

This is a prime example of misinterpreting statistics. In crime-ridden areas, people don't report crimes and the police don't tally them.

[Fiddlstix]

Must be a mistake in reporting. Guns are totally banned in England, so we know that they've done away with crime.

Yep!

[TC Rider]

(I posted this on another UK thread earlier today)

We just got back from a 2 week UK vacation. What a sorry situation.

Our first day in London, while eating dinner, we caught an 'immigrant' with his hand in my wife's purse. I threatened to cut him, if he didn't depart hastily and he was dumbfounded. I gathered they are not used to victims fighting back. This was in South Kensington, a supposed 'good' area, near a tube stop. We did look for a cop on the street after dinner and never spotted one in the neighborhood the entire 5 days we stayed there. (I took my Benchmade Griptillian folder with me and carried it the entire time in my back pocket. I did not show it to the lowlife with his hand in my wife's purse, but was prepared to..)

Everywhere in London there are posters warning the 'sheep' to watch their bags and belongings, but none warning the miscreants of the consequences of their actions.

There are posters everywhere warning the population against verbally or physically assaulting minorities, immigrants, women, gays and other protected groups. This is now considered a serious crime.

BTW, by recent decree of Parliament, homosexuals are now known officially as 'those attracted to those of the same sex'.

Things were better outside of London, but the thought-crime posters are everywhere. Overall we had a good time, but I doubt we would ever go back.

Oddly enough, we found the people in Paris more open and friendly when we visited there, 5 years ago.

I may decide to post a new thread about all of my observations while there.

[Age of Reason]

I wonder how closely the increase of third-world immigration to England would correlate with England's rising crime rate.

Looks like diversity at work, if you ask me.

[Ditter]

Hey Shaggy your country is being maligned.

[ChadGore]

But, but, but, how can this be ? They've grabbed all the guns and have big brother cameras on every corner! < /sarcasm >

[PatrioticAmerican]

They also have the worst "food".

[Cicero]

All it takes is one high-profile case where a homeowner was given a life sentence for protecting himself against two young thugs who broke into his home after a string of robberies, and burglars everywhere will think they are teflon-coated.

Couple that with the huge influx of immigrants--West Indians, Africans, Albanians, Muslims of all kinds, all encouraged to think that people are discriminating against them and treating them badly--and you have a real situation. They know that the law will be harder on their victims than on the perps, so what do they have to lose?