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Conservatives Dispute Bush Portrayal of Islam as Peaceful
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| 11/30/02
Posted on 11/29/2002 9:49:16 PM PST by knak
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To: Jhoffa_
Shall we "clean house" on them also? Can't handle the actual topic?
People who invent asinine questions usually get either ignored... or asinine answers.
Good luck to you.
To: aisgreen
Yes, I believe this is war and the Bill of Rights are being bent to carefully investigate every muslum in the US.
Okay, well you (along with like minded types as in #200) go ahead and advocate "careful bending" of the Constitution whenever it suits your needs.
Personally I think it's dangerous and once you go down this road, then none of us is immune.
You go right ahead and bend though.. Go on.
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posted on
12/01/2002 10:46:32 AM PST
by
Jhoffa_
To: Luis Gonzalez
Keep looking, it's not there. Unless you mean this one. :) Jesus stopped Peter (he is named in John) from harming a soldier who had come to take Him, because He said that His death was prophecy fulfilled and had to take place.
Matthew 26:50-54, "And Jesus said unto him, Friend, wherefore art thou come? Then came they, and laid hands on Jesus, and took him. And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear. Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels? But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?"
Also, if Jesus had wanted the disciples to avenge His death, I guess they spent the whole rest of their lives in disobedience, because they became preachers and later martyrs for the cause, NOT soldiers.
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posted on
12/01/2002 10:48:42 AM PST
by
agrace
To: Publius6961
The question is valid. If that's the criteria you need to 'clean house' then no one is safe. Did you see # 200 by chance?
Regards to you also.
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posted on
12/01/2002 10:48:46 AM PST
by
Jhoffa_
To: AnnaZ
According to the so-called 'logic' of the self-avowed ideologues, since the Columbine massacre was perpetrated by gun-owners, therefore all gun-owners are homocidal.
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To: Cultural Jihad
According to the so-called 'logic' of the self-avowed ideologues, since the Columbine massacre was perpetrated by gun-owners, therefore all gun-owners are homocidal.
And this translates to... ?
In a time of war, the "enemy" is always made out to be a monolithic beast. "Japs", "Krauts", and now the various incarnations of the spellings of "Muslims". That's the nature of psyching up "for the kill".
It isn't claimed to be an original or mature stance.
My point, originally, was my eye-rolling ennui at the steaming pile of Barbra Streisand that Mr. Hooper unloaded. He is either the most selective dispenser of outrage ever seen, or an out and out liar. Either way he disgusts me, his statements irritate me and his organization is poised to become the Rainbow/SHOVE of the 21st century. Just what a new millennium needed.
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posted on
12/01/2002 11:05:29 AM PST
by
AnnaZ
To: Publius6961
You're not buying that either? LOL...
Nope. Not this weekend, at least.
210
posted on
12/01/2002 11:09:56 AM PST
by
AnnaZ
To: GeekDejure
Knock it off.
To: knak
I'm sure in private that Bush is saying just what other conservatives say about Islam.
The reason in public he calls it peacefull is that he can then go after the bad folks a bit at a time.
Claim it is "all" evil and he has to take it "all" on at once.
To: Jhoffa_
The question is valid. The question is not valid; it obfuscates. It deflects.
It is implying, if not moral equivalency, at least comparable need for "bigotry". It is a race card thinly disguised.
The topic is "Conservatives dispute Bush's..."
No need to drag other imponderables into the discussion.
Islam is devious and complex enough.
To: Cultural Jihad
since the Columbine massacre was perpetrated by gun-owners, therefore all gun-owners are homocidal. Or at the very least "homicidal", LOL
To: Publius6961
The question is not valid; it obfuscates. It deflects.
It doesn't make your point..
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posted on
12/01/2002 11:18:14 AM PST
by
Jhoffa_
To: Publius6961
Thanks for the speling korrection.
To: Jhoffa_
You should be careful with these broad brushes. It wasn't too awfully long ago that people wanted to paint all Conservatives with one. The voice of a true liberal. Look for the exception, not the rule. During WWII churches in the US divorced themselves from Germany. Not one MUSLIM GROUP HAS SPOKEN UP AGAINST THIS HATE, OR DENOUNCED THE KORAN FOR ITS HATE PASSAGES. JERRY FALWELL IS RIGHT.
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posted on
12/01/2002 11:21:09 AM PST
by
Exton1
To: aisgreen
I did not say to bend the Constitution "whenever" it suits my needs. I said it is necessary for this "war" on terrorists.
All terrorists, or just this current crop?
You better be careful here.
As I said there are and have been many acts of violence that the left would like to lay at the feet of Christianity, Conservatism and Judaism.
If you set a standard with my maintenance man and Islam as a whole today then I expect you to live by it tomorrow.
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posted on
12/01/2002 11:21:21 AM PST
by
Jhoffa_
To: Jhoffa_
It doesn't make your point.. If you start a thread about racism, I can make your point there.
I prefer to stay on topic.
Best regards.
To: Clemenza; Yehuda; rmlew; RaceBannon; PARodrig; Black Agnes; Kaafi
ping
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posted on
12/01/2002 11:22:40 AM PST
by
Cacique
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