[sweetliberty]

If you have read the main body of the thread before, you might want to skim over it because there are a few changes and variations, and of course the list of links has grown considerably.

[TheLion]

Oregon:

So you think your vote is sacred, do you? Well, good Democrats may think otherwise.


VOTESCAM OREGON

STOP THE ELECTION !

STATE ELECTION FRAUD, BALLOTS ALREADY OPENED AND ALTERED BEFORE ELECTION DAY

GROUP OF PEOPLE GO OVER THE MARKS ON EVERY BALLOT WITH PENCIL IF A PEN HAS BEEN USED - ALTERING THE BALLOT WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT OF THE ELECTOR AND AFTER THAT ELECTOR HAS SIGNED OFF ON THAT BALLOT

THE POTENTIAL FOR FRAUD SO HUGE IT INVALIDATES THE WHOLE ELECTION !!!

CURRENT SEC. OF STATE BRADBURY, WHO HEADS THE ELECTIONS DIVISION, IS RUNNING A CAMPAIGN FOR CONGRESS AT THE SAME TIME AS OPERATING THIS VOTESCAM


Unbelievably, todays Oregonian says the ballots for the November 5 election are already being opened and a group of people are going over each one with a pencil if ink was used, or the mark is not dark enough !!!

The article states that a ballot comes through some of the machines BLANK if a black pen was used instead of a pencil !

In Marion County our ballot SPECIFICALLY SAID "BLACK PEN OR PENCIL".

THE WHOLE ELECTION IS HOPELESSLY COMPROMISED !!!!

Think of what they can do with their pencil ! Think of the ones you left blank, not wanting to vote on issues you did not know about.....they can fill in anything they want to !

Think about that if it was done in ink, it comes in registering BLANK, and with your signature, can be fraudulently filled out however someone would mark it without your knowledge or consent.

And what about the ones in pencil too? They are going over every ballot ....

Voting is SACRED.

In court, writing on a document INVALIDATES that document as a lawful court record. Altering a ballot does the same thing !!!

The whole idea of the voting day, you showed up IN PERSON, you signed a book and got a ballot - it went to a box - UNOPENED these boxes go one place only and are opened ONE time only and not handled !!!

And on top of this unbelievable FRAUD, in Oregon right now the current SECRETARY OF STATE BILL BRADBURY who is HEAD of the elections in his department, is RUNNING a campaign !!!!!

NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST THERE !!!! AND THESE ARE HIS POLICIES .....

ALSO BOTH GOVERNOR CANDIDATES ARE BAR MEMBERS WHO SHOULD NOT EVEN BE IN AN EXECUTIVE BRANCH BEING MEMBERS OF THE JUDICIAL BRANCH THROUGH THE BAR ......

STOP THE ELECTION !!!! IT IS VOID OF LAW !!! TOTAL AND TRANSPARENT FRAUD AND VIOLATION OF THE PUBLIC TRUST.

It is up to the People to restore Constitutional Authority of the People, and Courts of Judicial Due Process according to original Article VII in the Oregon Constitution and to repeal the Amended VII that allows all this fraud and manipulation.

The state plan is to move toward email voting, worse than this new "vote by mail" scheme ......

we have to get REAL - real people, real rights, real paper ballots, real voting day, real humans in courtrooms real constitutional policy making - GET THESE TRAITORS OUT OF OREGON GOVERNMENT AND THE LAWFUL OFFICES THEY ARE OCCUPYING - THEY ARE DECIEVING THE PEOPLE, VIOLATING THE PUBLIC TRUST

pamela gaston
a voice for children
fifth amendment coalition of Oregon

Note that the soft title and attitude of the Oregonian article is not surprised or outraged - does not even express an opinion that these policies may raise serious issues of TRUST and CONFLICT OF INTEREST



And this follow up!


An election made for No. 2


by DON COLBURN

A nybody got a No. 2 pencil? What is a No. 2 pencil?

For thousands of Oregon voters, voting brings a flashback to standardized achievement tests and college boards.

Three Oregon counties -- Washington, Clackamas and Lane -- use punch-out ballots. The rest require voters to mark choices by blackening ovals or arrows. Some counties, such as Marion,
specify black ink or pencil.

But others, including Multnomah, hold out for No. 2.

"USE A PENCIL ONLY," it says at the top of the Multnomah ballot. But the bold red lettering on the secrecy envelope goes further:

"We suggest you USE A #2 PENCIL to vote," it says. "If you use a pen, mark over any votes with a #2 pencil."

Uh-oh.

A call to the Multnomah County Elections Division goes like this:

Reporter: So you have to use a pencil?

Clerk: "Yes, a No. 2 pencil."

Reporter: It has to be a No. 2?

Clerk: "That's sort of the preferred way."

Reporter: What if you use a pen? Does your vote count?

Clerk: "Just a second." Then she's back, saying: "OK, it's highly
recommended that you use a No. 2 pencil -- but you can use ink and we'll still count it. Dark ink."

Come again?

In the end, elections come down to optics -- the light-sensors of the vote-counting machines and the sharp eyes of inspectors such as Sarah Hansen.

The 10 vote-counting machines in Multnomah County -- ES&S 550s -- read only the graphite carbon in pencil marks. An ink spot shows up blank.

"Machines aren't smart," says Eric Sample, spokesman for the county elections division. "They're quick but not smart. They can't interpret."

Between 5 percent and 10 percent of ballots need some extra attention.

"People use pens," Sample says. "Or they don't fully erase. Or they spill coffee on the ballot. Or it gets torn -- the dog-ate-my-homework kind of thing."

Which is where Hansen and her fellow inspectors come in.

In the cavernous basement of an old car barn on Southeast Morrison
Street, Hansen and more than 80 other temporary inspectors are
scanning ballots this week to make sure they're fit to be read by a
less-forgiving machine.

They sit at oblong tables in bipartisan groups of four. It could be a church supper or a bingo game, except for the stacks of ballots and the six portable toilets along one wall. The concrete floor still has yellow stripes where county vehicles once parked.

The inspectors, in Sample's view, are unsung heroes of the democratic process. For $8.83 an hour, they make up for some voters' inability to follow instructions and the machines' inability not to.

"Ink -- that's the most common error," Hansen says.

On inked ballots, Hansen uses a black-tipped wooden cylinder called a graphite enhancer -- she calls it "the dauber" -- to over-blacken the voter's mark. She presses the dauber into a stamp pad of black graphite, then marks over each inked oval.

"You do it at a systematic pace," says Hansen, 77, who has been
working elections in Portland since 1951, when she started as a volunteer, bundling ballots to be counted in Lincoln High School.

More than 50 years later, she remembers the precinct number -- 1315 -- but not the name of any candidate on the ballot.

http://www.avoiceforchildren.com/news/2002/November/VOTESCAM_BALLOT_FRAUD_OREGON.htm

[TheLion]

Latest from South Dakota:

S.D. officials reviewing vote fraud claims

By Mark Haugen and Dan Olmsted
From the Washington Politics & Policy Desk
Published 12/6/2002 8:35 PM

WASHINGTON, Dec. 6 (UPI) -- The South Dakota attorney general's office is reviewing allegations of fraud in the November election in which Democratic Sen. Tim Johnson beat his Republican challenger by 524 votes, an official said Friday.

Meanwhile, United Press International received further details from several Republican poll watchers about alleged improprieties they said they witnessed, including operation of a get-out-the-vote effort from within polling stations and attempts to vote using a variety of names.

Democrats have denied these claims, which were first reported by UPI Wednesday.

"We have gotten allegations and accusations of various improprieties," Deputy Attorney General Robert Mayer confirmed to UPI Friday. "We are reviewing them. If some merit follow-up, we would ask the Department of Criminal Investigation to investigate."

But he added that because some of the allegations center on polling places on Indian reservations, "there is a very serious question whether we would have jurisdiction" to pursue alleged crimes there. He said that might be up to federal officials.

Mayer cautioned against making too much of the review, saying "it's our job" to look at any allegation of illegal activity. He said he was "not a liberty" to say how far the review had proceeded.

UPI first reported on Wednesday that several South Dakota Republicans say they witnessed serious irregularities in the Nov. 5 election in which incumbent Johnson eked out a narrow victory over Republican U.S. Rep. John Thune. Democrats said the charges are untrue and that Republicans have made a habit of claiming fraud after losing close elections.

Among the allegations leveled in interviews with UPI and in affidavits collected by the Republican Party:

-- Three people being offered money for voting for Johnson.

-- Voters giving two or three names to election personnel before finding a name that matched on the voter rolls, which they would use to cast their ballot.

-- The Democratic Party organizing voter rides from inside the polling place.

Thune decided not to seek a recount, but Republican National Committee spokesman Jim Dyke said, "The RNC is very interested in investigating fraud and putting a stop to it if they find it."

Johnson's campaign manager, Steve Hildebrand, dismissed the complaints as unfounded and uncorroborated and said the campaign was conducted honestly.

The poll watchers say they witnessed pro-Johnson electioneering activities inside of polling places located near Indian reservations and saw partisan pro-Johnson, anti-Republican literature left out in balloting areas. Both are violations of laws concerning the conduct of elections.

They also say they witnessed efforts to intimidate poll workers who questioned the activity.

One focus of alleged problems is Todd County, home to the Rosebud Indian Reservation. Registered Democrats there outnumber Republicans 5 to 1, making it a target for state Democratic Party and Johnson campaign get-out-the-vote efforts. Johnson won Todd County 2,027-464.

Several Republican poll watchers assert they witnessed voters giving multiple names to poll workers until a match permitting them to vote could be found on the voter rolls.

"They'd go through two or three names and say, 'Okay, gotcha here,'" said Darla Assman (pronounced ahs-mahn), a poll watcher in the South Mission Precinct in Todd County.

"What I thought, and a lot of people thought, is they could do that in Mission, because there was a lot of confusion with the lists, and then go out to Parmalee and vote again. It's sure possible the way they were hauling them around."

South Dakota election law says anyone impersonating a registered voter is guilty of a felony.

Her brother-in-law Ed Assman said he witnessed similar activities at the Parmalee precinct. "A voter would say: 'I'm Joyce Two Elk.' The election official would say: 'There's nobody registered under that name.' Then the lady would say: 'Check Joyce Two Bulls.' They might go through three names until they got a hit. I'm not sure what was going on with that. Who she really was, I don't know." He said that happened 30 to 40 different times while he observed.

A third poll watcher, Ray Stewart of the North Antelope Precinct, said he also witnessed similar activity. "We had one lady come in to vote. She was registered to vote on South Antelope and also registered at North Antelope on another name. She had the potential to vote twice. That's not an isolated case, either."

Other complaints are described in the upcoming Dec. 23 issue of National Review, a conservative news and opinion magazine. Byron York reports that Republican Noma Sazma, a member of the local election board who votes in the St. Thomas Parish Hall in Mission, was surprised when a group of Democratic lawyers arrived to serve as poll watcher.

"The Democratic team quickly set up shop in the Parish Hall kitchen, just a few feet from the tables where voters would cast their ballots," York wrote. "The party had rented dozens of vans and hired drivers to bring voters to the polls, and the out-of-state lawyers make the kitchen their transportation headquarters. It took her a few minutes to realize that the Democrats intended to run their get-out-the vote effort from inside the polling place."

Democrat Nancy Wanless told York she witnessed the same things. "They were on the phone using it to call I don't know where," York quotes her saying. "I needed to call because we had some new districting. They were always talking on it."

"When Wanless protested," York writes, "she got a chilly reaction from the out-of-towners. 'I felt like they were trying to intimidate me.'"

The Johnson-Thune race was one of the nastier contests in 2002. At stake in the South Dakota race and in a half-dozen other key races across the country was whether the Republicans or Democrats would be the majority party in the U.S. Senate.

As it turned out, Republicans regained control of the Senate even as they lost the South Dakota race. Thune declined to seek a recount, saying that it was in the best interests of the state to avoid a messy post-election challenge.

Some conservatives criticized the decision, saying voters had been deprived of their franchise and the case should be pursued whether or not control of the Senate hung in the balance. They believe Thune did not pursue the matter because he feared the political fall out would prevent him from challenging Tom Daschle in 2004 should the Democrat's senate leader seek re-election.

Allegations of fraud were made prior to the election involving activists working on voter registration and absentee ballots for the Democrats' coordinated campaign effort. Auditors in several West River counties raised concerns about some of the documents submitted to their offices. An initial investigation revealed that absentee ballot applications had been filed for people who don't exist or had recently died.

One man was charged with forgery for allegedly submitting fraudulent registration cards. Officials said the man turned in 226 voter registration cards, most allegedly fraudulent.

UPI obtained copies of affidavits taken by the Republicans from two women and one man, all Native Americans, who said: "I was promised $10 if I would go vote. I was given a ride to the polls in a van with Tim Johnson for Senate signs in the window. The name of the van driver was Terry. After I voted, the van took me back from the polling place. When Terry dropped me off, he offered me $10 for voting.

It is a Class 2 misdemeanor in South Dakota for any person to pay money to induce a voter to vote.

Copyright © 2002 United Press International


http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20021206-052001-9786r

[TheLion]

Louisana:

Here is the article on the arrest warrants issued.

Judge signs warrants for election offenses

By EMILY KERN
Westside bureau

http://www.theadvocate.com/stories/112602/wes_judge001.shtml


PLAQUEMINE -- City Court Judge William Dupont confirmed Monday he signed three arrest warrants last week alleging election offenses in Iberville Parish.

The state Department of Elections is conducting an on-going investigation into alleged vote-buying in the parish.

Election officials have said they are looking into the actions of at least four elected officials, among others.

No arrests have been made.

Dupont confirmed that he signed the warrants, but declined to identity the people named in them.

He said he does not know who has the warrants now.

State elections fraud investigator Greg Malveaux, who is leading the investigation in the parish, declined to identify the people named in the warrants or what would happen now that they are signed. He said his office was busy monitoring absentee voting for the Dec. 7 election.

"Then we'll go from there," he said.

Fraud investigators began looking at Iberville Parish after reports reached them that someone overheard another person soliciting individuals to buy their votes.

Malveaux has taken several voluntary statements from individuals claiming that an elected official offered to pay them between $5 and $10 to vote absentee in the Oct. 5 primary.

Malveaux has said those arrested will face prosecution on counts of bribery of voters.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

Please put me on your Vote Fraud ping list! Thanks! Great thread and very VERY appropriate for the readers of this forum to move towards being more activist in this area .... instead of always typing on our keyboards ;-).

[Saundra Duffy]

Major BUMP!!!!!!!!!!

[TheLion]

In case someone hasn't read this post: Did Tim Johnson steal South Dakota's Senate Seat?

[Don Friovinai]

I have just finished the first version of a new web page on voter fraud. It will condense the links and information from the trheads to an easy to navigate site. This page will continully be updated as new info is recieved.

The link to the web site is http://home.cablelynx.com/~budgera

[JimRed]

BUMP for later!

[TheLion]

"Of what value to the democratic processes of society is the voice of a person who hasn't played by its rules"


11/6/00
America's Virtual Voters
The good voters of Ivory Coast rose up to throw out a former president who rigged his reelection. So did the voters of Serbia. Is America going the other way?

To start with, a personal anecdote about the small gear wheels that drive the machinery of democracy: Forty years ago, fresh out of college, I worked in a suburban Philadelphia laboratory and became friendly with an older technician--a crusty little street-wise Irishman--who also happened to be a local Democratic committeeman. We often ate lunch together, where he regaled me, college-educated naïf as I was, with tales about realpolitik at the grass-roots level.

In the blue-collar town where he lived, you had to belong to a union and register Democratic to get a job at the local steel mill. At election time, party workers would drag everyone on their list out of their row-houses, diners and bars, promising them a buck for a vote, if they voted Democratic. When the voter came out of the polling booth and wanted his money, he'd be asked to show his hands. This was to insure that the guy wasn't lying about turning the Democratic candidates' levers on the voting machine. It seems that the poll worker would smear the handles with mercurochrome whenever a party member, whose loyalty was not above question, entered the polling station.

Vote fraud is as American as apple pie. Surely by now everyone has heard the story about how the late mayor Richard Daley's Democratic machine got the Cook County (Chicago) cemeteries to vote, thereby clinching John F. Kennedy's narrow victory over Richard Nixon. As the national vote count progressed, showing an increasingly narrowing vote margin between the two contenders, the count in Chicago was mysteriously delayed. When the numbers were finally released, a record turnout of Cook County voters had voted overwhelmingly for Kennedy, in the narrowest popular vote margin of any presidential election of this century. Nixon--showing a spirit of graciousness and statesmanship that unfortunately deserted him during his later tribulations--decided not to contest the vote count for the good of the country, and conceded.

Virtual voters, absentee ballots
A record number of California voters will be voting via absentee ballot this election. Indeed, some are prognosticating that the result in some close races may not be known until days after the elections because of the time required to count and verify the large number of absentee ballots. The California Registrar of Voters has reported that 3.2 million requests for absentee ballots have been received, of a total number of 15.7 million registered voters in the state.

In these days, when it is against the law to ask voters for identification and where the Motor Voter Law has made anyone with a driver's license (authentic or counterfeit) a potential voter, absentee ballots are especially susceptible to fraud and abuse. Missing is even the minimal assurance of seeing a real live voter walk into the local polling station and signing the registry--a process wich assures at least that the voter is physically present and not in another state, or in a cemetery. All the ballot counters do is check the the signature of the absentee voter against the voter registration application.

In Los Angeles County, for example, over 600,000 absentee ballots have been sent out for the 2000 presidential election. As this comprises 15% of the total registered voters in the county, it is not difficult to see what would happen even in case of a record voter turnout: as many as a quarter or a third of the vote would be determined by absentees.

Remember, the 46th Congressional District covering the Orange County suburbs of Los Angeles is the place where, after the 1996 Congressional elections, election fraud by was charged (and later proven) in the 984 vote victory of Democratic Congressional candidate Loretta Sanchez over incumbent Republican Robert Dornan. Shortly after the election, as reported by the San Jose Mercury News (Dec. 28, 1996), nineteen non-citizens admitted to a Los Angeles newspaper that they had voted in the 1996 General Election even though their naturalization process had not been completed. A later investigation discovered that 60% of the voter registrations processed by Hermanidad Mexicanos Nacional, an L.A. area Hispanic organization, were of non-citizens who fraudulently claimed the right to vote [San Jose Mercury News (Oct. 14, 1997)]. The investigation by the California Secretary of State identified 5087 non-citizens on the election rolls of Orange County.

The 700 or so fraudulent ballots--many of them absentee ballots--were insufficient in the final analysis to overturn the election. But the issue of Sanchez's right to be seated dragged on for several years both in the House of Representatives and with the California Secretary of State's office, until the Republican House, to avoid further political damage with Hispanic voters, quashed any further investigation and denied Dornan the seat.

The above example is, of course, a case of out-and-out election fraud, not the customary misrepresentation and ethnic-group pandering that is legally permissible (although ethically questionable) under our sloppy election laws. For example, to take advantage of the changing demographics of the 46th Congressional District due to influx of Hispanic immigrants, Loretta Sanchez was legally able to revert to her Hispanic-sounding maiden name, rather than use her more Anglo-sounding married name, on the ballot.

The Motor Voter law has made fraudulent registration especially easy to commit (and hard to catch). An excerpt from the California Secretary of State's "Election Fraud Handbook" is an eye-opener for those who think that the cleanliness of our voting process is as meticulously insured as is our payment of taxes.

Question: I went to get my driver’s license and they asked me if I wanted to register to vote. You don’t have to be a citizen to get a California driver’s license. Isn’t it likely that lots of non-citizens are registering to vote at the DMV?

Answer: The National Voter Registration Act (Motor Voter) requires the Department of Motor Vehicles and certain social services agencies to offer their customers the opportunity to register to vote. The registration forms are highlighted, as are the instructions, to point out the necessity of being a U.S. citizen in order to be eligible to register. (EC § 2150) [Election Code--Ed.] If DMV has documentation from the applicant that indicates non-citizenship, employees are instructed to remind the applicant of the legal requirements and also make a notation on the card for the elections official to investigate. In addition, the Secretary of State’s Office has developed an official working relationship with the Immigration and Naturalization Service to check their files to ensure that non-citizens are not included on the voter registration files. [Our emphasis--Ed.]

The effectiveness of DMV admonitions is open to question, given that a group of DMV workers was caught recently selling driver's licenses to illegal immigrants (getting a driver's license is often the first step in establishing a false identity in the United States). As is the Secretary of State's "working relationship" with an overburdened, understaffed and badly managed INS--especially when civil rights and immigrant rights groups are poised to jump on even the slightest suggestion of "voter intimidation" or "violation of privacy." That's what happened when Bill Jones (Calif. State Secretary) sought to do a more thorough investigation of Orange County election rolls in the Sanchez-Dornan case.

There are other opportunities for abuse as well, some evidently perfectly "legal." For example, the NAACP (National Association for the Advancement for Colored People) has been drumming up voters in the nation's county jails, having registered 11,000 prisoners at last count. It appears that in many states, California included, "jailbirds" are eligible to vote--by absentee ballot, of course--even though incarcerated, provided they are not serving time or on parole for a felony. It is easy to imagine what effect prison gangs and other pressures for en bloc voting would have on these prisoner-voters, and which party benefits primarily from this process.

All this raises a legitimate question: Of what value to the democratic processes of society is the voice of a person who hasn't played by its rules?

http://www.quivis.com/fraud.html

[Saundra Duffy]

This is the most important issue facing us, bar none! For victory & freedom!!!

[Saundra Duffy]

This just in from Kern County via Steve Frank (NFRA past president):

THIS IS FROM A READER IN KERN COUNTY. THIS IS JUST ONE DISTRICT--HOW MANY MORE FRAUDULENT VOTERS ARE THERE IN CALIFORNIA? IN THIS CASE WE LOST AN ASSEMBLY SEAT.

Yesterday, December 9, 2002, 1,318 cases of voter fraud in the Kern County portion of the 30th Assembly District with documentation was handed to the Kern County Grand Jury. Today, December 10, 2002, copies of the cases are being delivered to the Kern County District Attorney and to Secretary of State, Fraud Division.

[sweetliberty]

For later reference:

Election Ballots Seized in Nevada County

[BillyBoy]

Why isn't CROOK County, Illinois on the list?! County Clerk David Orr (RAT) conviently threw out about 20,000 suburban votes a while back, resulting in Chicago 'RATs winning about 80% of the vote.

[Quix]

By all means put or keep me on your voter fraud ping list.

Am convinced a lot of this needs on FREEPCARDS.

UHHHH IT'S SUCH A MASS OF DATA.

WHAT in your experienced perceptions with it all--would be the 5-7 most outrageous, clear-cut--unarguable 3X5 card sized portions to FIRST put on cards???

Would greatly appreciate your insights.

Blessings,

[Dan from Michigan]

Michigan - Add Ingham, Genesee, and Saginaw counties as well. Buena Vista Township has had major troubles one time. East Lansing(Ingham) is another major problem spot with shenanigans(Byrum tried to steal an election there against Rogers who won). Genesee County(Flint) is where Debbie Stabusall found a way to win in 2000.

[blackbart1]

I didn't realize that Kern County, California is on the voter fraud list.

We in many parts of this county have no choice other than to vote by Absentee Ballot.

A couple of years ago I called the county clerk in Bakersfield and she assured me that the Absentee Ballots were counted first. Now I am not so sure.

[timestax]

bump

[ladyinred]

I have spent most of today reading this thread's links. Incredible stories of fraud with no consequences!! Living in California, I know about voter fraud, and am livid about it. Poll watchers are not even allowed inside the polls here, which renders us useless for the most part.
I will do all I can to help prevent democrats from attempting to steal the election of '04, and you know they will, but with the laws here favoring RATS, it is a difficult task!
Thanks so much for one of the most informative threads in the history of FR!

[Saundra Duffy]

THANK YOU!! This is so great. I LOVE YOU!!!!!!! BTW - They're still working on exposing voter fraud in the CA Dist 30 Assembly race - last I heard the gap had been widdled down to just 190 (from 265) after provisional ballots had been counted. The voter fraud stuff is still being looked into but they hit a snag with money (as in hiring lawyers). The evidence is there; just takes time. FOR VICTORY & FREEDOM!!!

[Eva]

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