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To: APBaer; gcruse; motife; Bob J; Godel; Tuco-bad; breakem; William McKinley; 11th Earl of Mar; ...
Kissinger's views on population have nothing to do with 911

This man is personally responsible for institutionalizing coercive sterilization and abortion programs in Third World countries as a prerequisite for US foreign aid.

This is demographic WARFARE, and this WARFARE has taken more lives via abortion and abortifacient contraceptives than all the lives lost to US military action in our country's history.

This would be comparable to naming the founder of Planned Parenthood or the National Abortion Rights Action League to a prominent position within this Republican Administration, except that Kissinger's successes in spreading abortion and population control make PP and NARAL pale in comparison.

When will you spineless so-called conservatives speak up an a Bush appointment.

You were silent when the rabidly pro-abort Tom Ridge was named as director of Homeland Security.

He is now a Cabinet level appointment, in charge of identifying terrorists, domestic and foreign.

Do we all forget so soon that the Clinton administration considered all non-violent pro-life protestors to be domestic terrorists, and all its leaders worthy of FBI surveilance?

And now a rabid pro-abort CINO, Tom Ridge, is in charge of a big brother/ big government leviathon, in charge of defining and identifying terrorists, domestic and foreign, that even Clinton couldn't have dreamed up.

Kissinger is personally guilty of the deaths of tens of millions of humans, snuffed out of existence by his NSSM 2000 policy level directives.

Comparisons to the Nazis have become cheap, a dime a dozen. Yet this one man's policy level decisions, spelled out in NSSM 2000, are probably directly responsible for more deaths than the Holocaust via abortions alone.

And you jackasses criticize me for pointing this out?

You FREeepers are a pathetic sort of conservatives, it seems.

And few of your comprehend what it truly means to be Christian when you so smugly shrug off your duties to protect His least ones.

33 posted on 11/29/2002 7:49:47 PM PST by Polycarp
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NSSM 2000: blueprint for de-population
by Jean Guilfoyle
The population-control ideology and the means to achieve it can be found in a U.S. executive-level government document entitled National security study memorandum 200: Implications of worldwide population growth for U.S. security and overseas interests (NSSM 200), published in 1974 and declassified in 1989. Although this plan of action was to be activated in developing countries, it was designed as a two-edged sword that could be swung with equal determination in both developed and developing countries alike. The document was signed by Henry Kissinger and directed to the secretaries of defense, agriculture and central intelligence, the deputy secretary of state, and the administrator of the Agency for International Development, with a copy to the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The focus of the study was the "international political and economic implications of population growth."

The study identified 13 "key countries" in which "special U.S. political and strategic interests" existed. The targeted nations were: India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nigeria, Mexico, Indonesia, Brazil, the Philippines, Thailand, Egypt, Turkey, Ethiopia and Colombia.

Security interests

U.S. security interests were seen as threatened by demographic and political realities in lesser-developed countries (LDCs), and the age structure of high-fertility nations with large numbers of young people. Young people were considered a potential threat to multi-national corporations. Revolutionary actions and counter-revolutionary coups in countries with large populations were viewed as posing the danger of expropriation of foreign investments, and creating political or national security problems for the U.S. Also mentioned were racial, ethnic, cultural, and religious factors, where "differential rates of population growth (exists) among these groups."

A major U.S. security interest concerned access to "reserves of higher-grade ores of most minerals," and the terms for exploration and exploitation of those resources. The study advised that civil disturbances affecting the "smooth flow of needed materials" would be less likely to occur "under conditions of slow or zero population growth."

The expression of resistance to global population strategies at the World Population Conference in Bucharest, in August, 1974, created a need to "persuade" LDC leaders to assist in population reduction within the targeted countries. Those objections came from countries wanting to ensure that any "new international economic order" would respect national sovereignty. In addition, "There was general consternation ... when at the beginning of the conference the (World Population Plan of Action) was subjected to a slashing, five-pronged attack led by Algeria, with the backing of several African countries; Argentina, supported by Uruguay, Brazil, Peru, and ... some other Latin American countries; the Eastern European group, less Romania; the PRC and the Holy See" (86-87).

World-wide propaganda

The attack led eventually to a worldwide propaganda effort to "create demand" for population-control technologies, and extol the benefits of population reduction within the nations: "Development of a worldwide political and popular commitment to population stabilization is fundamental to any effective strategy. This requires the support and commitment of key LDC leaders. This will only take place if they clearly see the negative impact of unrestricted population growth and believe it is possible to deal with this question through governmental action" (100).

Sensitive to the charge of interference in the internal policies of nations, the document said, "We must take care that our activities should not give the appearance ... of an industrialized country policy directed against the LDCs." In light of this, the document called for "integrating population factors in national plans, particularly (within) health services, education, agricultural resources and development" while relating "population policies and family-planning programs to major sectors of development: health, nutrition, agriculture, education, social services, organized labor, women's activities, and community development" (21-2).

Sharpening this protective camouflage, the document recommended the integration of family planning with health programs: "Finally, providing integrated family planning and health services on a broad basis would help the U.S. contend with the ideological charge that the U.S. is more interested in curbing the numbers of LDC people than it is in their future and well-being" (117).

In the establishment of American-funded public policy, NSSM 200 suggested that population factors and population policies should be considered in all "Country Assistance Strategy Papers and Development Assistance Program multi-year papers.... Since population growth is a major determinant of increases in food demand," the document continued, "the allocation of scarce PL480 (food) resources should take account of what steps a country is taking in population control as well as food production."

Again, a cautionary warning accompanied the recommendation: "In these sensitive relationships, however, it is important in style as well as substance to avoid the appearance of coercion" (106-107). It was also recommended that other organizations, agencies, multilateral institutions and embassies participate in the establishment of population initiatives where resistance was prevalent. The use of satellite communications for propaganda was also recommended: "Beyond seeking to reach and influence national leaders, improved worldwide support for population-related efforts should be sought through increased emphasis on mass media and other population education and motivation programs by the UN, USIA (U.S. Information Agency) and USAID (U.S. Agency for International Development). We should give higher priorities in our information programs worldwide for this area and consider expansion of collaborative arrangements with multilateral institutions in population education programs" (117).

The role of the Department of State and USAID in the formation of "the United Nations Fund for Population Activities (UNFPA) to generate a multilateral effort in population as complement to the bilateral actions of AID and other donor countries" was described (121). Acting through the UNFPA gave the additional benefit of avoiding "the danger that some LDC leaders will see developed-country pressures for family planning as a form of economic or racial imperialism; this could well create a serious backlash."

Imperialist motivation

"The U.S. can help to minimize charges of an imperialist motivation behind its support of population activities by repeatedly asserting that such support derives from a concern with: (a) the right of the individual to determine freely and responsibly their number and spacing of children ... and (b) the fundamental social and economic development of poor countries" (114-5).

Finally, an "alternative" view was presented, which maintained that "mandatory programs may be needed and that we should be considering these possibilities now." Here, it was asked whether food would be considered "an instrument of national power" (118-120).

NSSM 200 was a statement composed after the fact. During the late 1960s and early 1970s, the U.S. had worked diligently behind the scenes to advance the population-control agenda at the United Nations, contributing the initial funding of $1 million.

A Department of State telegram, dated July 1969, reported the support of John D. Rockefeller III, among others, for the appointment of Rafael Salas of the Philippines as senior officer to co-ordinate and administer the UN population program. The administrator of the UN Development Program reported confidentially that he preferred someone such as Salas who had the "advantage of color, religion (Catholic) and conviction."

Why should this be a matter of interest to other countries? For two reasons. First, NSSM 200 describes the ideology and the methods for instituting population policies within sovereign nations. Second, in order to recognize the forceful determination of the program's propagators.

But there is another reason: look at us and learn. The people most seriously damaged by such a program will always be the people of the advocate nation itself. Former under-secretary for global affairs Timothy Wirth, when asked about the abortion issue by a reporter, responded lightly, "It's just another technology."

The U.S. has lost over 36 million children to abortion since 1973. It would be impossible to calculate the numbers lost through abortifacient drugs and devices. This much we do know: over 30 per cent of our youth between the ages of 15 and 25 are gone.

38 posted on 11/29/2002 7:52:37 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
You're harangue is a non-sequitor. In your ignorance you have also insulted me. If I am not a Christian, you have imlied I am and said I am a bad one. In this case why do you think I give a damn about what kind of Christian you think I am. And who died and made you God?

If I am a Christian I truly do not need your opinion to tell me what kind of Christian I am. Who the hell do you think you are?

40 posted on 11/29/2002 7:54:35 PM PST by breakem
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To: Polycarp
What was your name before this new one?

Am getting sick of tired of some pro-lifers determining who is and who is not a conservative. Believe it or not, you are not the person in charge of who is considered a conservative.

BTW, I am not a RINO, never been a DemocRAT, am anti-abortion, and the like but I still probably don't meet your description of a conservative because I don't run around the Country claiming the sky is falling if President Bush appoints someone who is not anti-abortion to a position that has nothing to do with abortion.

41 posted on 11/29/2002 7:54:58 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: Polycarp
You FREeepers are a pathetic sort of conservatives, it seems.

Yes, you would certainly do better to never ever associate with such nasty, evil, pathetic people such as Freepers again.

51 posted on 11/29/2002 8:03:58 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Polycarp

You jump on the Freepers... Is that kinda like the "pathetic foot doctors"? See the accusations can fly both ways doc.

52 posted on 11/29/2002 8:05:47 PM PST by deport
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To: Polycarp
And now a rabid pro-abort CINO, Tom Ridge, is in charge of a big brother/ big government leviathon, in charge of defining and identifying terrorists, domestic and foreign, that even Clinton couldn't have dreamed up.

Tell us, exactly, how Ridge's position will influence abortion in Bush's cabinet?

53 posted on 11/29/2002 8:06:02 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Polycarp; PhiKapMom; sinkspur

The doc done gone to braying......

55 posted on 11/29/2002 8:07:54 PM PST by deport
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To: Polycarp
And few of your comprehend what it truly means to be Christian when you so smugly shrug off your duties to protect His least ones.

Right. As if anyone in their right mind is going to accept a single-issue fanatic as the self appointed judge of what it really means to be a Christian, let alone define their "duties"....lol

58 posted on 11/29/2002 8:09:29 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Polycarp
And few of your comprehend what it truly means to be Christian when you so smugly shrug off your duties to protect His least ones.

Many here are Christians in word only, much like Bush.

76 posted on 11/29/2002 8:36:19 PM PST by SwordofTruth
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To: Polycarp
Do we all forget so soon that the Clinton administration considered all non-violent pro-life protestors to be domestic terrorists, and all its leaders worthy of FBI surveilance? And now a rabid pro-abort CINO, Tom Ridge, is in charge of a big brother/ big government leviathon, in charge of defining and identifying terrorists, domestic and foreign, that even Clinton couldn't have dreamed up.

Good God, dude, cool your jets!

With Al-Qaeda cells hiding in plain sight all over the country, and the possibility of ground-to-air rocket launchers fresh in the minds of everyone who is halfway paying attention, it's astounding that you think Ridge's priority is going to be the few and far between clinic bombers, much less peaceful protestors! Especially since pro-lifers will almost certainly benefit from more non-activist judges being chosen by the same President Bush and confirmed by a GOP-led Congress!

You FREeepers are a pathetic sort of conservatives, it seems. And few of your comprehend what it truly means to be Christian when you so smugly shrug off your duties to protect His least ones.

Hello, McFly, helloooo?

Explain how keeping Kissinger away from this job will protect a single one of them. And this time, try to make sense.

78 posted on 11/29/2002 8:39:58 PM PST by L.N. Smithee
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To: Polycarp
And you jackasses criticize me for pointing this out?

Pick you fights carefully.  And pick fights with fellow
Freepers even more so.

94 posted on 11/29/2002 8:50:26 PM PST by gcruse
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To: Polycarp
And few of your comprehend what it truly means to be Christian.....

Please remember all of us unworthy Freepers when you ascend to Heaven....

100 posted on 11/29/2002 8:59:27 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Polycarp
Your tin foil is showing.

Don't call me names and don't question my Christianity and don't question my pro-life commitment. You made your initial post. You don't like the responses you got so you resorted to childish behavior.

If you want to be taken seriously, defend your position without making a fool of yourself. Otherwise, shut up.
124 posted on 11/29/2002 9:31:01 PM PST by Endeavor
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To: Polycarp
This man is personally responsible for institutionalizing coercive sterilization and abortion programs in Third World countries as a prerequisite for US foreign aid.

I'm against abortion but what's your problem with coercive sterilization? Do people have a right to have children they cant feed? Do people have a right to have unlimited children then demand that WE give billions to feed and clothe their children?

I'm for personal responsibility, if they can't support their own children, they have no right to create any. If you wanna look at Demographic warfare, check out the southwest USA amigo, where another country is illegally invading the US by the millions. That's even more coercive.

186 posted on 11/29/2002 10:28:48 PM PST by Godel
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To: Polycarp
Keep flapping your lips, Poly - you'll take bunches of people who were pretty decently pro-life, and turn them into people who believe the government has nothing to say about the issue (like me). Throw in your views on contraception, too. That'll really turn them off you.
380 posted on 11/30/2002 10:32:11 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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