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Bush Cuts Pay Raises for Federal Workers, Citing National Emergency
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Posted on 11/29/2002 4:51:57 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
A significant decision, indeed. Here's to hoping he can find other salary savings in government through not backfilling on attrition, lots of job elimination through finding overlaps in the Homeland Security mergers, rooting out waste, fraud and abuse at all levels, instituting automated internal audit systems, etc.
This type of re-inventing government can have a major impact on budget and efficiencies given the cost of labor in the federal government. It's something AlGore never dreamed of when he was asked to take a look-see at the management of government. Perhaps he was too busy wiring schools to the internet he invented.
To: anniegetyourgun
"It's something AlGore never dreamed of when he was asked to take a look-see at the management of government.
Perhaps he was too busy wiring schools to the internet he invented."
LOL!!!
To: anniegetyourgun
Yes, a very good move. I wonder if this year's savings will be sufficient to cover this year's salaries of the new hires at the expanded Department of Education.
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posted on
11/29/2002 5:07:31 PM PST
by
caltrop
To: Sub-Driver
Congress got their raise. Guess they had to pay for it somehow.
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posted on
11/29/2002 5:11:23 PM PST
by
hattend
To: Sub-Driver
BTW, only in D.C. is an anticipated increase which has never been implemented, considered "a cut".....
To: Sub-Driver
The senate/congress? (one of em) sure did not get cut, they just got a raise.
To: Sub-Driver
Well Bush didn't have Maryland in his electoral strategy anyway.
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posted on
11/29/2002 5:12:38 PM PST
by
Torie
To: caltrop
isn't it wonderful to know that our craven congresscritters and senators voted themselves pay raises in the dark of night???? hush, we peons aren't supposed to know.
To: Sub-Driver
A time of war. It's time to bite the bullet. During World War II there was rationing of goods such as sugar, etc.
All I can say is "Hooray for Bush"!
To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
I'm figuring that this decision came as no surprise to the congressional leadership and they'll follow suit shortly. Magnanimously give up their pay raise in the interest of hardworking Americans. You know.
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posted on
11/29/2002 5:15:18 PM PST
by
lainie
To: contessa machiaveli
Perhaps one of them will have the decency to propose a 'cut' in congressional pay when they return in the next session. It's the least they can do during a national emergency and in light of this. But, alas, perhaps there isn't a decent one among them....
To: Sub-Driver
I wasn't going to say anything since I figured people could read the article and pull out the following but it seems to keep getting missed:
"Call said the locality-based payments have rarely gone into effect since their creation in 1990, either because former President Clinton limited them or Congress prescribed other salary increases.
"The whole locality-based adjustment ... for the most part doesn't go into effect," Call said.
"The White House estimated that the overall average locality-based pay increase would amount to about 18.6 percent. Bush said granting the full raises would cost about $13.6 billion in 2003, or $11.2 billion more than he proposed for the year - a cost the nation can't bear as it continues to battle the war against terror."
NOTE: These pay raises are for General Schedule employees and are rarely implemented. The standard raise for years has been around 3%. The locality raises would break the bank and are not necessary. A GS-12, Step 10 now makes $70,000+ a year. That is not considered a high grade by anyone's account in the GS ranks!
To: anniegetyourgun
great minds.. #11
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posted on
11/29/2002 5:24:23 PM PST
by
lainie
To: PhiKapMom
Then we can discuss how the AP story appears to want to paint it as otherwise. But I suppose that doesn't surprise any of us.
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posted on
11/29/2002 5:25:53 PM PST
by
lainie
To: lainie
Wow...I was a minute behind you! But then, most folks on FR are quicker on the uptake than I....
To: anniegetyourgun
Perhaps one of them will have the decency to propose a 'cut' in congressional pay when they return in the next session.
You reckon they will have a change of heart since Nov. 13?
Vote Summary
Question: On the Motion to Table (Motion to Table Feingold Amdt. No. 4900 ) |
Vote Number: |
242 |
Vote Date: |
November 13, 2002, 04:00 PM |
Required For Majority: |
1/2 |
Vote Result: |
Motion to Table Agreed to |
Amendment Number: |
S.Amdt. 4900 to H.R. 5005 (Homeland Security Act of 2002 ) |
Statement of Purpose: |
To provide that Members of Congress shall not receive a cost of living adjustment in pay during fiscal year 2003. |
Vote Counts: |
YEAs |
58 |
|
NAYs |
36 |
|
Not Voting |
6 |
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posted on
11/29/2002 5:30:57 PM PST
by
deport
To: anniegetyourgun
In all reality the only federal employees who should be paid at all are postal workers. At least there you have folks doing something other people pay for.
Right?
Run that salary schedule down to zero and the work will still get done as folks like you will volunteer your time no doubt.
Maybe we could make government jobs like being on a jury - they just call you in, give you $15 per day, and you get to make the big decisions.
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posted on
11/29/2002 5:32:04 PM PST
by
muawiyah
To: lainie
The AP story is hard to figure out and if I hadn't had experience with civil service would not have picked up on it! IMO it was written to make the President look bad when he is just doing what other President's have done since 1990. Locality pay for GS employees who are fairly high paid is not necessary IMO!
To: Sub-Driver
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"Earlier this month, the administration announced it wants to let private companies compete for up to half of the 1.8 million federal jobs."I hope this means that there are going to be fewer gov'mnt workers for the next elections.
Sure would like to know the comparisons between the number of federal workers and private company's employee numbers.
I would suspect that many gov'mnt workers vote DEMOCRAT just to keep their jobs. While private businesses and self-employed vote for FREEDOM FROM TAXATION!!
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