Stand Up and Take It Like an American (Sometimes you pay a price for your beliefs) PEGGY NOONAN

opinionjournal ^ | 11/29/2002 | PEGGY NOONAN

[TLBSHOW]

Stand Up and Take It Like an American In a free society, sometimes you pay a price for your beliefs.

1. The continuance of the new patriotism which is marked not by a tinny boastfulness but by an intellectually and emotionally experienced fidelity to and respect for the founding ideas, documents and assumptions which have guided us since we declared our independence from the mother country 226 years ago.

[FreeTheHostages]

Hmm. Interesting. "old stoic sense"

Flyover country still has that. Peggy shouldn't assume we're all like that just cause the urban and East/West coast types whine.

[gramho12]

Another great article from Peggy. And remember, our friend Daschle is from "fly-over" country.

[raisincane]

What a bite of true reality! Yes, Ms. Noonan, this is what our country has lost. Bring on tort reform and put some decent judges on the bench that will throw the "pity me" cases out of the court rooms!

[FreeTheHostages]

True. It is a good article. Just that I think I'm a little more optimistic.

[KeyBored]

"And remember, our friend Daschle is from "fly-over" country"

So is Tom Brokaw (South Dakota)
And Walter Cronkite (Missouri)
And Dan Rather (Texas)
And Dick Gephardt (Missouri)
And Tom Harkin (Iowa)

What gives?

[Fiddlstix]

And Walter Cronkite (Missouri)

I seem to remember reading somewhere that 'ol Walter said he was a Texan.......

[autoresponder]

But Tiny Tommie is hardly of the stock of our early rugged Dakotas Black Hills frontiersmen.

Perhaps of one ancestor that crawled down a mooring rope to spread the Demmoragic *Plagoo.

*-- Thanx Charles Schultz

[wayoverontheright]

Tom: Grownups pay a price for where they stand!

Ouch!! You may want to put a little ice on that.

[KeyBored]

Well I checked. Seems like he does hail from the Show Me state.

Oh well, Texas' loss is Missouri's gain. (or should it be the other way around)?

[tictoc]

Irish way with words ping!

[FreedomFarmer]

Ol Walt has made a career of saying things that aren't completely true.

Son of a Dentist, St. Joseph, MO

[Fiddlstix]

Well I checked. Seems like he does hail from the Show Me state.

Oh well, Texas' loss is Missouri's gain. (or should it be the other way around)?

Thanks for checking.
It's good news...
(It's bad enough having to say Rather is a Texan......)

[txzman]

What Peggy could have said is that many Americans have forgotten basic principles of living an honest life - charity, responsibility, accountability, courage, humility, etc.....

[Dutchgirl]

Why would I abandon what I think is true so that people I think are wrong will like me?

It always amazes me how Christians in particular can abandon principles of "sin" in exchange for being called "open-minded." There is a huge diffrence between being justified and being forgiven.

Another great Peggy Noonan post.

[norton]

They went away and got all sophisticated,
greedy,
proud,
arrogant,
and,
they made a very good living at it without having to do anything nasty like labor, or creating value, or even coming up with an idea.

I watched Star Wars #1 last night, must be why I keep thinking of "the dark side".

[Amelia]

FYI

[WorkingClassFilth]

Self loathing.

These miscreants flee from the suffocating sameness of working America as soon as they get their sheepskins. Off to the big city where they can dip their wicks in a vast array of gutters. Fidlelity and monogomy are as foreign and distasteful to them as absolute values, patriotism and the idea that the best choices in life may not satisfy their internal craving for self-fufillment. The high point of the American continent is the heartland - the coasts tend to collect what shakes loose.

[loveliberty]

Rush Limbaugh has 20 million listeners. If Tom Daschle wants to make progress for his side why doesn't he go on his show and talk to them?

After the Thanksgiving Day interview of Limbaugh by Tim Russert, revealing a very reasonable and insightful Rush, Daschle may be regretting his "shrill" accusations.

Speaking of shrill, has Daschle never listened to James Carville, Paul Begala, Bill Press, Eleanor Clift, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, and the host of other non-stop and mindless Clinton-controlled DNC spokesmen? There's not a principled thinker among them--just Kool-Aid worshipers at the feet of the former two-for-the-price-of-one Boss Hogg pretenders.

What Daschle has wound up doing is to get people who never would have listened to Rush now paying attention in a brand new way and seeing the shallow whining of the former Senate non-Leader.

[Pokey78]

Pinging Peggy's list.