Do Moslems, Christians & Jews Believe in the Same God?

frontpagemag ^ | 11/28/2002 | Serge Trifkovic

[Commie Basher]

Those punishments may seem harsh to you, but they are not for the mere slighting of Allah's name

Isn't there a passage in the OT where God tells the Hebrews not to touch his altar. Then, as they're moving it, one guy slips and accidentally touches it -- and he's struck dead.

In another passage, a prophet enters a city, and some kids mock him and call him "baldy." So God sends a bear to slaughter the kids -- killed merely for insulting a prophet.

The OT God seems pretty petty in his murderous brutality.

[Delphinium]

Sounds like you think that the New Testament is the last word from God, hence you disregard the Koran. Do you also regard the Book Of Mormon to be a false book?

I regard both the Koran, and the book of Mormon to be false. They came from the same source too.

[crystalk]

There was not a single Muslim alive in the USA when that passage you quote was written, and it is highly dubious as a matter of constitutional law that it protects Islam or any other religion not in existence in the USA at that time.

IMHO it protects only Christianity whether Roman, Greek, or Protestant, and Judaism.

[rastus macgill]

Kill for the love of Kali!
Ah Hindu sect or Kipling smear?

[Michael2001]

Christians and Jews don't believe in Allah (except for Cardinal Law).

[rastus macgill]

WTF?
You are so totlly off !
WHAT are you talking about?

[crystalk]

If God did those things, He will answer for them.

But he does not command US to go out and murder persons for imagined slights, as Islam does, and You Know That Just as Well as I.

[fatidic]

I think you are confusing "truth" with "belief." Do you deny that people believe in and worship many different gods? For instance, I have a hindu friend who prays to living men as gods. Are you trying to tell me that she is actually praying to the Creator when she addresses her prayers to Baba something-or-other? What do you suppose the God of the Bible meant when he denounced Baal as a false god. Do you suppose the God who revealed Himself in the Bible would excuse Baal worshipers because they were actually serving the only real God, since, as you put it there is only one God?

[Restorer]

I rather suspect that we're not as much on the same page as you seem to think.

The Crusades were not really a "Christian" phenomenon at all. They were an imitation of Muslim jihad. The Crusades themselves were not an aggressive attempt to conquer land, they were a long-delayed counter-attack against Muslim aggression.

BTW, absolutely zero witches were burned at Salem. Over a dozen were hanged. One was "pressed" to death. (Don't ask). No burnings.

You are correct that almost all religions have committed atrocities. Try getting into a discussion of the 30 Years War between ardent Protestants and Catholics, for instance. I did, and was thoroughly shot up from both sides!

My problem is with the religions that are committing atyrocities today. A rather more pressing issue than comparative degrees of historical guilt.

[AFPhys]

NO !!!

[Commie Basher]

Leviticus 24:16 (KJV) "He who blasphemes the name of the LORD shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him; the sojourner as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death.

Not terribly different from the present Muslim perspective.

Thank you for that.

"the sojourner as well as the native." I assume this means that non-Jews as well as Jews who blaspheme shall be stoned to death.

Truly, it seems many "religions of peace" share this concept, :-)

[PhilipFreneau]

There is ample reason to believe that the last real prophet died around 2500 years ago, and that any claims of such phenomena in our own age are bogus.

St. John was the last prophet. His prophecies are found in the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ. Many of his prophecies are similar to those of Isaiah from 7 or 8 centuries earlier.

[Commie Basher]

The God of the bible would not act as a pimp passing out 72 virgins for each man,

I'm not even sure if most Muslims believe that. Is that in the Koran?

[Restorer]

Please see #77.

You are correct about the difference between Muslim and Christian behavior.

However, that was not the question at hand. The discussion was about specific texts. And there is not a great deal of difference between Koran and OT in their military laws.

[modern_orthodox]

what that One God is, though, is somewhat up for debate. Does He have the ability to create a physical incarnation of Himself? How closely can He communicate with a prophet? If there is a Trinity, there are all sorts of varying theories about how it works out. Each variation basically thinks the other has the wrong conception of God. Similar, yet very different.

[rastus macgill]

There were many Muslims in America at that time most didn't come here voluntarily. Look where the slave pool came from traders were not buying Animists exclusively.
Anyway it is irrelevant Leftist/Liberals believe that the Constitution doesn't mean anything not specific to the time it was written.Feel free to defend this belief you are WRONG!

[crystalk]

Muhammad and Joseph Smith both lived much later than St John.

[fatidic]

Huge difference between the scope of the objects of wrath of the two gods. Allah targets the whole world whereas the God of the Bible's targets are specific, time-limited and cannot be generalized beyond certain borders.

[CanisMajor2002]

There was not a single Muslim alive in the USA when that passage you quote was written, and it is highly dubious as a matter of constitutional law that it protects Islam or any other religion not in existence in the USA at that time.

IMHO it protects only Christianity whether Roman, Greek, or Protestant, and Judaism.

As much as I may wish for the above situation, I can't find that the Constitution applies only to the thoughts that existed in America in 1787. If this were truly the case, then the Internet would not be protected by the free speech clause (chuckle if you're a cynic :) ).