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GOP makes gains with minorities: Party aggressively courted blacks, Hispanics in key states
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, November 27, 2002 | By John Berlau

Posted on 11/26/2002 11:09:14 PM PST by JohnHuang2

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002

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1 posted on 11/26/2002 11:09:14 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
BUMP
2 posted on 11/27/2002 12:50:17 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: JohnHuang2
Voter News Service, which conducts national exit polls for the TV networks, announced it would not release this year's results because of flaws in the polling data.

Right. Sure.

I'll bet dollars to donuts that the polls were pretty much right on; they just couldn't believe them.

Or they knew they didn't dare let the nation find out what the polls revealed.

3 posted on 11/27/2002 1:20:16 AM PST by patriciaruth
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Maybe the minority figures had the DNC worried. Once the Dems lose their lock on the minority vote its a la hasta vista baby for their chances of regaining national power in the future.
4 posted on 11/27/2002 3:02:06 AM PST by goldstategop
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5 posted on 11/27/2002 3:48:02 AM PST by Dark Wing
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To: JohnHuang2; mhking; rdb3
Interesting experience I had this Fall.

I sat in on a den meeting between my Republican state senator (who lost 11/5 due to a horribly gerrymandered district, thanks to the Dems who just lost most of their political power) and black *Cynthia McKinney* supporters. This was after Cynthia had been beaten in the primary.

Amazingly, there is some common ground, even though you'd think there would be none with this more "inner-city" group, and that any common ground would all be with the buppies out in the suburbs.

The black folks were concerned with the fact that gentrification of in-town neighborhoods was forcing out older, retired, black folks. Why? Because they couldn't afford the rising property taxes on their fixed incomes. The Republican state senator (and most of us) are all for keeping taxes low.

So thus, there is some common ground to be found. Republicans need to find this common ground and work it.
6 posted on 11/27/2002 4:01:11 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: JohnHuang2
Bump.
7 posted on 11/27/2002 4:05:55 AM PST by Rocko
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To: JohnHuang2
When the Voter News Service announced on election day that they were not going to release numbers because of "flaws", I knew that the numbers were definately against the RATS.

The VNS is a tool of the DNC and Liberal Media and they new that the results of the poll would depress voting out West and put Simon over the top.

It was a last, desparate act of a losing crime family.

8 posted on 11/27/2002 4:11:36 AM PST by Redleg Duke
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This year, for the first time, the GOP did more than just showcase a few of its black and Hispanic faces. Its candidates campaigned in black and Hispanic neighborhoods and related media outlets with the same message they took to white voters.

"It was a dialogue instead of a monologue," says Richard Nadler, a consultant to the Kansas City-based Council for Better Government, which produced pro-Republican issue ads on radio stations in 12 states.

Well who wudda thunk it?

Still, I wonder how long it will take before the "p" word appears on this thread.

There shall be no mercy.
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9 posted on 11/27/2002 4:20:46 AM PST by rdb3
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To: JohnHuang2
Happy daze are here again!

Hello Amnesty!!!!!!!

Great, anyone like the thought of 12 million more parasites sucking money from our wallets?

I see the Amnesty writing on the wall.
10 posted on 11/27/2002 5:56:55 AM PST by taxed2death
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Black conservative ping

If you want on (or off) of my black conservative ping list, please let me know via FREEPmail. (And no, you don't have to be black to be on the list!)

Extra warning: this is a high-volume ping list.

11 posted on 11/27/2002 7:34:40 AM PST by mhking
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To: taxed2death; rdb3; mhking; JohnHuang2; Miss Marple; Poohbah; Howlin; Texasforever; Luis Gonzalez; ..
You did not make rdb3 wait too long.

Buchanan taking his walk (I'd rather he was booted out and given an expulsion), and right now, it's becoming pretty obvious that there is a growing consensus is that the paleo-CON wing of the movement is starting to become a liability.

Nobody like doom-and-gloom, and nobody likes people who are not willing to try to work out a rational solution to a problem. The good news is that the GOP is growing BEYOND the likes of Buchanan. I hope it continues, because we've got big fish to fry, and I don't trust the Dems within 1,000 miles of power until the big fish are fried.
12 posted on 11/27/2002 7:42:49 AM PST by hchutch
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And Colorado's Kirby says the conservative message wasn't compromised, just taken to more people.

Exactly as it should be, and exactly the results I would hope for and expect. The problem has never been the message, it's always been the delivery. Conservatives have to get out there and speak for themselves, instead of allowing the left to do all the talking, and define conservatism in our absence. It obviously gives good results when we do - it's sort of amazing that conservative pols took this long to figure it out.

13 posted on 11/27/2002 7:53:15 AM PST by general_re
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An excellent point.

The fact is, the Republican party is spreading the message, but part of the success in spreading that message is contingent on conservative keeping their "house" in order - something that might get a little messy in the near-future
14 posted on 11/27/2002 7:56:26 AM PST by hchutch
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I'm not sure I see a real schism in the future. Paleo-nativists like Patty Buke are dinosaurs - they can make a lot of noise in the short term, but in the long run, they're dead. Best to just ignore them anyway.

Most people are excellent at sniffing out when they're being pandered to, and obviously minority voters are no exception. The key is in presenting the message with sincerity, explaining to them why your ideas are best, rather than trying to endlessly tailor the message to what you think people want to hear. The end result of that is inevitably that nobody knows what you stand for.

15 posted on 11/27/2002 8:22:38 AM PST by general_re
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16 posted on 11/27/2002 8:33:15 AM PST by Cacique
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For the most part, it is dead on target. However, in some cases, you also have to be willing to listen to their concerns, and address them - and that is something that the conservative movement has failed to do vis-a-vis blacks and Hispanics to its detriment.

At the same time, one ought to take a consistent stand against race baiting or similar comments on our side (and sadly, I believe it does occur). It also means we admit when we've made mistakes. If we do that, then we have a very good shot of picking up tons of votes for our agenda and the candidates who support it.

And someday, we will be able to put Buchanan and those like him in the dust heap of political history.
17 posted on 11/27/2002 8:36:08 AM PST by hchutch
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However, in some cases, you also have to be willing to listen to their concerns, and address them - and that is something that the conservative movement has failed to do vis-a-vis blacks and Hispanics to its detriment.

Exactly so. You have to show that you have some understanding of the problems people face, and be willing to explain to them why you think your ideas are the best way to fix those problems. Everyone likes the feeling that they're being heard, and the best way to give people that feeling is to actually listen to them, and then be prepared to make a thoughful case for your ideas.

At the same time, one ought to take a consistent stand against race baiting or similar comments on our side (and sadly, I believe it does occur). It also means we admit when we've made mistakes.

Again, exactly right - I couldn't have said it better myself. By doing that, conservatives can, at long last, seize the moral high-ground on matters of race, and negate one of the left's few remaining exploitable divides in American society.

And someday, we will be able to put Buchanan and those like him in the dust heap of political history.

Oh, yes. That day is coming, and coming soon. I firmly believe that, my FRiend ;)

18 posted on 11/27/2002 8:45:36 AM PST by general_re
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To: taxed2death
Hello Amnesty!!!!!!!

The word "amnesty" did not appear in the article. Why are you reading "amnesty" into the article?

There shall be no mercy.
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19 posted on 11/27/2002 3:17:29 PM PST by rdb3
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Jeb won 51% of the NON-CUBAN Latin vote in Florida. A key reason was the increased registration of recently naturalized Upper-Middle Class South Americans and increased campaigning among the normally Democratic Puerto Rican population in Orlando.

Remember, all we need is about 40% of the Latino vote. We must target those subgroups within the Hispanic and even the African American community. I don't really see the Asians coming our way as they tend to believe the crap they learn at Harvard and Berkley, but we should not take them for granted either.

20 posted on 11/27/2002 9:03:27 PM PST by Clemenza
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