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Redneck Rampage (Georgia State Flag)
Creative Loafing ^ | November 20, 2002 | Jeff Berry

Posted on 11/26/2002 2:36:03 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa

Hell fire, y'all! White folks done voted to take Georgia back 40 years!

Well, that's it. The (white) people of Georgia have spoken, and they've told us that the confederate flag is more important than anything else in the world. And make no mistake, folks -- as far as the governor's race was concerned, it was all about the state flag. Angry rural white people turned out at the polls in numbers not seen since the days of Lester Maddox to vent their fury at that danged ol' Liberal King Rat Roy Barnes.

What you heard on Nov. 5 was not a Republican earthquake. It was the sound of progressive men like William B. Hartsfield and Robert Woodruff and Charles Weltner rolling over in their graves. For the first time in a generation, the reins of Georgia government have been handed over to a wide-eyed hick who proudly panders to the neo-confederate crowd, a shadowy and racist gang of baccer-chewin' morons most city folks had believed to be extinct, if not permanently powerless.

And now these clueless crackers are running amok, planning to embarrass us all by restoring the confederate emblem to the state flag and transforming zombie-like Democratic state Senators into right-wing Republicans by the busload. And it's all being orchestrated by Ralph Reed. God help us.

History books say that Eugene Talmadge, the legendary race-baiting Georgia governor, often boasted of the fact that he'd "never carried a county with a streetcar." It was a pretentious rejection of modernity, as if being backwards was somehow a worthy attribute. But the Talmadge following was comprised of an ignorant gaggle of bumpkins and Klan-affiliated rednecks, so I guess there is a legitimate comparison to what happened to Georgia on Nov. 5. Just like "Ol' Gene," Perdue's victory came from an overwhelmingly rural base.

I am old enough to remember the Georgia countryside in the late 1960s, when "Maddox Country" signs were plentiful. I'd foolishly believed for most of my life that those days of racist politics in Georgia were long gone. When "Sonny Country" signs bearing the confederate flag began popping up earlier this year, it worried me -- but not seriously. "Surely we have progressed beyond such foolishness," I said to myself.

Well, I was wrong, by God. Yee-haw!

Of course, suburban Republicans are now spinning their asses off, swearing to anyone who will listen that Perdue's election had nothing to do with race or the flag, but was actually due to Barnes' alleged "arrogance," a charge that anyone who has met the governor knows to be ridiculous. But try as they might to muddy the waters, establishment Republicans cannot dispute the shocking and disturbing videotape of Perdue supporters waving confederate flags on election night as the governor-elect mocked the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. Nor can they deny the backwater election demographics, or the legions of gloating boneheads from racist groups like the Sons of the Confederate Veterans and the League of the South, all of them taking credit for Perdue's victory.

Yes friends, the sleeping giant redneck has awakened, and he don't give a damn about what uppity colored folks think about the confederate flag. He's out stomping across Georgia like some kind of mutant yokel Godzilla, wreaking humiliation and destruction upon our hard-earned image as an enlightened place to do business.

To their credit, Democrats didn't play the race card during the election. And if they had, they would've probably been screwed anyway. It's tough to battle against a race-bating enemy like state GOP chairman Reed, who once said, "I do guerrilla warfare. I paint my face and travel at night. You don't know it's over until you're in a body bag."

Reed and his Republican nightriders may have lynched Barnes -- but at what price? This klutzy clan has painted itself into a corner: If they put the flag to a vote, the state will pay mightily. If they don't, the rednecks will revolt, and the world may be subjected to a petulant spectacle of white-trash madness not seen since Sherman lit a match.

Either way, Georgia's hard-won image as the progressive leader of the south will suffer.

Jeff Berry is buying up confederate flags as fast as he can -- and burning them.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: confederacy; losers; traitors; treason
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To: WhiskeyPapa; Travis McGee; Squantos
Hey Walt,
Are you saying Spaglioni SJ is a Jesuit? I've known a couple that are damn good with a knife and gun. Their souls belong to Jesus but their a$$e$ belong to this life.
TP
81 posted on 11/26/2002 6:45:32 AM PST by TEXASPROUD
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Not a tax. If you didn't drink whiskey, you didn't pay a tax. There were no federal taxes prior to the ACW

Excise taxes were on a far greater number of goods other than just whiskey. Saying that an excise tax isn't a tax is like saying a sales tax isn't a tax because you only pay it if you buy stuff. Well if it's not a tax try not paying it on stuff you buy. The federal government existed, taxed and spend money prior to 1860. No where near the confiscatory level of today, but why am I discussing this with you. You are not a drunk or an idiot near as I can tell, but that still leaves two possible categories or people not to discuss things with.

82 posted on 11/26/2002 6:48:19 AM PST by from occupied ga
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To: WhiskeyPapa
"I'd foolishly believed for most of my life that those days of racist politics in Georgia were long gone."

And then came the racist attack against the Confederate Flag and the author found out that racist attacks against the flag were just not acceptable, did he learn that lesson? Doesn't seem so.

83 posted on 11/26/2002 6:54:59 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: WhiskeyPapa
"...The ACW -was- primarily about slavery..."

Golly, gee, Walt, maybe you are finally coming around.
Not too long ago you would not have added the word "PRIMARILY" to that sentence.

Federal policies on "who" ("the states united" or "the united states") would have the final word on the issue of slavery might have been the "spark" but the powder, patch, and ball had been loaded much earlier.

The U.S. Constitution failed to adequately address the details of what would be the true nature of the association of "the individual states" and "the united states". Had it done so, the 1860's war may have never occurred. Slavery or not, that issue (States Rights) was eventually going to raise its ugly head.

84 posted on 11/26/2002 6:58:24 AM PST by error99
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To: from occupied ga
Re: your #29.

I kinda got the feeling WP doesn't care much for the South.

Of course, the Confederate Falg being waved at Perdue's acceptance speech has been disproved. But that doesn't matter to some people.

85 posted on 11/26/2002 6:58:46 AM PST by Budge
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To: error99
There wasn't a referendum because there was no public controversy about the 1956 change. A few newspaper editors thought that it was a bad idea and made us look backward, but there was an element that thought the entire Civil War Centennial was a bad idea, that it conflicted with the "New South" they were trying to promote.

The Senate Committee that Barnes appointed to support his unilateral flag change was the source of the ugly story that the flag change was a response to the Brown v. Board of Education decision. If you read the Senate committee report, you can see that their conclusion is entirely speculative as far as contemporary evidence goes - there is almost nothing from which they could even infer such a motivation. And since the prevailing opinion in Georgia at that time was unabashedly pro-segregation and anti-federal government, if that had been the true intention of the legislators it would not have to be inferred, the record would be full of long-winded speeches about it. It's only with our modern guilt and 20-20 hindsight that we believe a flag change for pro-seg purposes would have been done in a hole and corner fashion. The majority of Georgians were PROUD of segregation at that time (the more fools they)!

The committee was able to get a couple of legislators who were still around to say, yeah, they thought that was what the vote was about. Naturally, at the time the flag was changed there was TREMENDOUS pressure on those who were still in the legislature to do Barnes's bidding - he was not at all hesitant to kill projects in a representative's district if crossed. Those no longer in office or beholden to Barnes (both conservatives like John Sammons Bell (who died before the latest flap) and liberals like Carl Sanders (who is still alive)) uniformly told interviewers for the AJC and for the DeKalb newspaper that the motivation for changing the flag was the upcoming Civil War centennial celebrations. Bell was a long time Civil War buff and Atlanta lawyer who later became a Court of Appeals judge. He was the moving force behind the 1956 flag change, and he always was adamant that the creation of the Centennial committees for the upcoming celebrations was the reason for the change.

86 posted on 11/26/2002 7:00:11 AM PST by AnAmericanMother
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To: WhiskeyPapa
There is no way to separate the CSA battle emblem from racism, treason, slavery -- and just being pitiful clueless losers. I'm sorry it doesn't suit you that I refuse to identify with that.

How about the Stars and Stripes, Walt? That flew over northern states that condoned slavery roo.

87 posted on 11/26/2002 7:03:07 AM PST by Budge
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To: WhiskeyPapa
The Dems are so looking for a reason they lost the election. I guess the flag is just as good of an excuse as anything.

That is just one of the many excuses I have heard since Nov 5th..

88 posted on 11/26/2002 7:03:30 AM PST by Texas Mom
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Perdue's victory came from an overwhelmingly rural base.

Eight percent of Perdue's votes came from a single county: Gwinnett. It is a suburb of Atlanta, not a rural county. If I recall correctly, its residents have the highest educational level and income level of any county in the state.

Apparetly the writer thinks anyplace other than downtown Atlanta, Macon, or Savannah is a"rural" area.

89 posted on 11/26/2002 7:05:41 AM PST by Brookhaven
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Written by another black racist?

Ever notice how a black racist calls white people with gun, "rednecks", but if you call a black with a gun, "gangbanger", they cry foul? Try calling a black with a gun a "redneck" and watch the fun. The black guy really does turn red with anger.
90 posted on 11/26/2002 7:06:56 AM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: WhiskeyPapa
I heard somewhere that the top Dem in the Ga. State House was pro-abort because he thought it was keeping down the black population. Can anyone confirm?
91 posted on 11/26/2002 7:07:58 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: from occupied ga
Excise taxes were on a far greater number of goods other than just whiskey.

You need to show that then.

Where can we see in the historical record that there were taxes "on a far greater number of goods" than whiskey in 1794 or right up to the ACW?

Walt

92 posted on 11/26/2002 7:15:05 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Where can we see in the historical record that there were taxes "on a far greater number of goods" than whiskey in 1794 or right up to the ACW

Try touring the Salem MA customs house. They give a partial list of taxed goods. (Post 1776)

93 posted on 11/26/2002 7:20:23 AM PST by from occupied ga
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To: error99
The U.S. Constitution failed to adequately address the details of what would be the true nature of the association of "the individual states" and "the united states".

The Constitution does state pretty plainly that it is the supreme law of the land and the state judges in every state will be bound thereby.

In fact it says:

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

So I don't think your statement is well supported.

Walt

94 posted on 11/26/2002 7:20:29 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: Brookhaven
"...votes came from a single county: Gwinnett..."

Well, four of those votes came right from my household...
Mr. error99, Mrs. error99, and 2 offsprings (that were, by the way, NOT errors!).
95 posted on 11/26/2002 7:20:52 AM PST by error99
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To: Tribune7
I heard somewhere that the top Dem in the Ga. State House was pro-abort because he thought it was keeping down the black population. Can anyone confirm?

Not true.

Tom Murphy (the GA Speaker of the House until he was thrown out in this last election) was staunchly pro-choice. As the story goes, his daughter is very pro-choice and Murphy has been pro-choice to please his daughter.

96 posted on 11/26/2002 7:25:23 AM PST by Brookhaven
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To: from occupied ga
Where can we see in the historical record that there were taxes "on a far greater number of goods" than whiskey in 1794 or right up to the ACW

Try touring the Salem MA customs house. They give a partial list of taxed goods. (Post 1776)

In other words, you don't have a source. There were not even federal excise taxes in 1860.

I know for a fact that the government under the Articles of Confederation had no right of taxation --at--all--, so between 1776-1790, that Salem MA customs house was collecting --nothing-- for the U.S. government.

Walt

97 posted on 11/26/2002 7:28:34 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: Brookhaven
Ok, thanks
98 posted on 11/26/2002 7:34:25 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Budge
There is no way to separate the CSA battle emblem from racism, treason, slavery -- and just being pitiful clueless losers. I'm sorry it doesn't suit you that I refuse to identify with that.

How about the Stars and Stripes, Walt? That flew over northern states that condoned slavery roo.

What the slave owners took issue with was that the nothern states were becoming less and less willing to support slavery.

The South Carolina Declaration of Causes even says that northerners labored under a false religious belief that slavey was wrong.

Slavery existed under the U.S. flag; it was U.S. citizens who were becoming increasingly uncomfortable with it ---except in the slave states.

Walt

99 posted on 11/26/2002 7:36:08 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: error99
Had there been a referendum, or even a legitimate debate in the GA house and senate, I don't think you would have had nearly the bad feelings about the flag change. As I recall, the flag change was accomplished in two days. No debate, barely enough time for the news to cover it. (I should note here that I supported changing the flag, but the way it was done just created an open sore for those that wanted to keep the old flag.)

Barne's seemed to have a political tin ear when it came to getting things done without getting people mad at him. The Northern Arc is a great example. He actually managed to get people on BOTH sides mad at him. First he tried to shove it through, then he just a quickly not only withdrew his support, but took steps that all but killed the project for the forseeable future.

100 posted on 11/26/2002 7:38:44 AM PST by Brookhaven
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