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Tuesday, November 26, 2002

Quote of the Day by goldstategop

1 posted on 11/25/2002 11:04:36 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
We should all listen to Ron Paul.
2 posted on 11/25/2002 11:22:16 PM PST by Founding Father
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To: JohnHuang2
Our nation's economy is in a slump - caused in large part by the tax policy.
If the Republicans don't do it while they've got the power - it will never get done.
This ought to be our number one priority.
3 posted on 11/25/2002 11:40:21 PM PST by ppaul
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"Over 200 people paid their own money to come to the convention," he said.

200 people showed up "paid their own money to come to the convention"?. Where'd they hold it? The Elks Lodge...It wasn't too long ago the sales tax shills claimed they were 500,000 strong and growing, what happened?

If all those 200 that showed up were from Congress it wouldn't be enough people to pass the bill.

4 posted on 11/25/2002 11:40:38 PM PST by lewislynn
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To: JohnHuang2
John, John, John ... this is mental masturbation and something that would turn out to be far worse, should it actually be imposed ( GOD forbid ! ), than a Federal Income tax. I'm not coming back to argue this; I've done so endlessly, for four years and the folks , who are blinded by this scam, refuse to even be objective about it.

Do I like the heavy tax burden, we have today ? NO. Do I want to see it changed ? Yes, I do. I prefer a flat 10 % tax.

7 posted on 11/25/2002 11:44:53 PM PST by nopardons
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Revenue is not the problem..............Spending is
8 posted on 11/26/2002 1:55:03 AM PST by Tripleplay
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In short, Americans are getting taxed coming and going, say AFT officials, and most people aren't even aware how much of their income goes to government – local, state and federal.

Just to make sure that Freepers aren't "most people."

According to the Tax Foundation, in 2001 the tax burden on the average American was 23.6% of his or her income in federal taxes, plus 10.2% in state and local taxes - 33.8% total.

Unfortunately that is just the beginning, The burden of government in this nation is much more than the federal revenue collected each year.

Dr. James Payne of the University of California, Reason Magazine '94; found that in addition to direct taxes we also pay huge, hidden taxes including:

"When the overhead costs are added together, (24 percent compliance costs, 33 percent disincentive costs, and 8 percent other costs), they total 65 percent of tax revenue."

And even that figure doesn't include the cost of import duties, license fees and other government regulations. For a typical U.S. family, the real cost of taxes and regulations as a percent of gross income is at least:

Federal taxes              23.6%(taxfoundation)
State & local taxes     10.2%(taxfoundation)
Overhead costs          21.9%(James L. Payne)
Regulatory costs         13.0%(M.W. Hodges)

More than 68% of one's income is now consumed by government through tax collections, compliance costs & regulation.

The bottom line:

Rep. Bill Archer, Chairman, House Ways and Means Committee:

If Congress wants patriotism, I suggest they start looking to change government policies that have drive Americans away to safer harbors instead of attempting to squeeze that turnip any more.

The next step from corporate expatriation is to move the entire manufacturing base to nations that can appreciate the value of commerce and jobs that it brings to the people.

9 posted on 11/26/2002 3:22:19 AM PST by ancient_geezer
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Why didn't they get rid of the income tax when I was a young pup?

The problem with a consumption tax is that the baby boomers who have already had a lifetime of wages consumed for the liberals are now heading toward retirement (lower income) and are now going to get socked with more taxes !!!

10 posted on 11/26/2002 3:35:29 AM PST by The Raven
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Americans would end up with an income and consumption tax.

That will be the likely result of all this Consumption Tax rhetoric. Congress will lure the voters with” Let’s pass the Consumption Tax now. We can then work to end the Income Tax.”

12 posted on 11/26/2002 4:06:31 AM PST by bimbo
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To: JohnHuang2; Taxman
Graetz is proposing a value-added tax, or VAT, used by 120 countries. It is similar to a national sales tax, but it is collected at all stages of production rather than just from retailers.

Terrible news. Michael Graetz is a Republican tax expert who is highly influential.

16 posted on 11/26/2002 8:47:23 AM PST by aristeides
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To: JohnHuang2
happily bumped...AND signing up to help
22 posted on 11/28/2002 11:30:29 PM PST by Goodness Gracious
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