GOP governors back Bush on illegals

Washington Times ^ | November 25, 2002 | Ralph Z. Hallow

[madfly]

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[Moonman62]

The president believes in his heart we are a nation of immigrants and we have to be fair. We are the land of opportunity.

I liked it better when America was a nation of Americans, not immigrants. And America should be the land of opportunity for Americans, and Mexico should be the land of opportunity for Mexicans.

[MissAmericanPie]

"Pandering I think is an inappropriate term," Mr. Ehrlich said. "The president believes in his heart we are a nation of immigrants and we have to be fair. We are the land of opportunity"

This is what the Republicans are doing that is enraging and will cause them to become extinct. We are fair, we are so freakin fair we are being destroyed and uprooted. We have a fair immigration policy, more than fair, it's so fair that it is unfair to natural born Americans.

Does Gov. Owens and the rest think we don't know these "guest workers", will bring their flea bitten families with them? Do these Governors and Bush, think that illegal invaders are going to suddenly stop invading because we have a guest worker program? Suddenly they are going to respect our sovereignty and laws? No, no guest worker programs, no amnesty's, no nothing, until and unless these invaders are deported, our borders guarded, and the average American is shown beyond doubt that D.C. is serious about this issue and not just attempting to placate the voters. To try to manipulate Americans sense of "fairness" and call upon our "compassion", when we have bent over backwards over every cry baby story that comes down the pike, when it's finally time after all these freaking decades to show us compassion, is galling, sick, brazen, and ungrateful, and will be punished at the polls.

To say that the Hispanic vote is the fastest growing voting bloc in the nation and must be pandered to, is the exact reason we want them out of here. The numbers here are already totally unacceptable, given the 2% total of hispanic voters nationwide, legal and illegal, wonder how many of these invaders we have to endure to get the Republicans numbers up?

[Joe Hadenuf]

Money sent back to Mexico by immigrants — legal and illegal — accounts for a significant portion of Mexico's gross domestic product.

Wake up, wake up America, there are people running through your doors and jumping through your windows, taking everything of value and putting it on trucks, wake up America, please wake up!

[Afronaut]

What happened to NAFTA?

I think it is time for policy to be made concerning the American Citizen, Not getting someone reelected to office.

[PRND21]

THEY NEED US.... WE DO NOT NEED THEM.

You couldn't be more wrong.
They wouldn't be here if American citizens were not hiring.

[Sabertooth]

Many rank-and-file Republicans have viewed the administration's use of phrases such as "guest worker program" and "putting people on the path to citizenship" as politically inspired euphemisms for immigrant amnesty.

"I don't necessarily agree with that view," Mr. Owens said. "Here's how I would phrase it: If we move to the program where people have a right to come across the border so long as they have a job, and we then know who they are, they can move across the border to a paying job."

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 Mr. Ehrlich said that when he was in the House last year, "there was a lot of misinformation" about Mr. Bush's amnesty proposal. "I think what we're saying is that once appropriately articulated, that fear factor will not be there," Mr. Ehrlich said....

"Pandering I think is an inappropriate term," Mr. Ehrlich said. "The president believes in his heart we are a nation of immigrants and we have to be fair. We are the land of opportunity.

"So I don't think it's a large risk because even parts of our base who have philosophical differences with this president tend to forgive him on this or any other issue, because they like him so much," Mr. Ehrlich said.

I find it curious that Governor-elect Ehrlich takes the time to disagree with the phrasing or terminology of those of us who've opposed the President's attempt to pass Section 245(i) last Spring, or who look darkly at the recent trial balloons of Amabassador Tony Garza (a long-time Bush insider) in that regard. I find it curious, because Mr. Erlich never address the kernel of the issue: that Section 245(i) and these trial balloons would indisputably legalize certain Illegals.

Ehrlich seems to think the problem is marketing, not Amnesty.

This article is from the Washington Times, which we conservatives have generally found to be trustworthy. Ambassador Garza and Governor-elect Ehrlich can't be dismissed as fringe-types, they are big-time GOP players. Can we view their comments of the past week as anything other than advance work for the next attempt by President Bush to legalize some of the Illegals?

When the President said last Spring that he regretted signing that Homeland Defense bill without the Section 245(i) provision, I took him at his word. I still do.

[Mo1]

Mr. Owens said he wants "to see what it is that the Bush administration or Congress does come up with" on immigration, before making any judgment.

As I have stated before Sabor, I realized the problem with the borders ... I am not blind .. I am also not blind to many of the suggestions that are posted on FR .. I just don't happen to agree with their solutions ..

[Sabertooth]

Do you agree with a solution that would include the legalization, by any name, of Illegal Aliens?

[skeeter]

"So I don't think it's a large risk because even parts of our base who have philosophical differences with this president tend to forgive him on this or any other issue, because they like him so much," Mr. Ehrlich said.

I wonder if the president is willing to stake his political fortunes on this supposition.

Many of us view the issue of who we allow in here, and why, as THE most important issue on the table, by far.

[Mo1]

And I want to get into this argument again because ... I like to bang my head up against the wall??

You know my opinions and you know as I do that I will get jumped all over because of it .. so let's leave it at that ..

However, I will say that I believe it is an important issue that needs to be addressed ..

[Spiff]

And I want to get into this argument again because ... I like to bang my head up against the wall?? You know my opinions and you know as I do that I will get jumped all over because of it .. so let's leave it at that .. However, I will say that I believe it is an important issue that needs to be addressed ..

Nice tap dance. Now, do you or do you not support a solution that includes amnesty for illegal aliens? Why?

Would you support a solution to crime that included granting amnesty to carjackers - allowing them keep their stolen cars? Why not? Don't they just want to get to work and back and aren't they simply trying to obtain a better life for themselves and their family?

[Mo1]

Would you support a solution to crime that included granting amnesty to carjackers - allowing them keep their stolen cars?

Yep .. I'd loved to see that .. I'd also love to see all the prisoners be set free to run wild and continue to murder, rape and kill more americans ... Yep you just nailed it ... /sarcasm>

Gee maybe an argument like that is the reason I don't like to post on these threads

[Spiff]

Yep .. I'd loved to see that .. I'd also love to see all the prisoners be set free to run wild and continue to murder, rape and kill more americans ... Yep you just nailed it ... /sarcasm> Gee maybe an argument like that is the reason I don't like to post on these threads

Well, if you don't support amnesty for carjackers, then why the hell would you support amnesty for illegal border intruders!? For what other crimes should we also grant amnesty? Or are your reasons for border intruder amnesty, as Karl Rove put it, "political and cultural"?

[RnMomof7]

I believe that the money sent back to Mexico is the biggest "business " in Mexico

There was an excuse that we NEEDED the workers in the past ..but Hello we are in a recession ..The stupid party will legalize them and they will all vote democrat..

[BillyBoy]

>> GOP RINO governors back Bush on illegals <<

Indeed. Hey, G.W., remember THIS guy who ran your Illinois campaign back in 2000? Wanna guess where he is now and what happened to the GOP in his state after his his efforts to "reach out" to illegals?

With "friends" like that, you don't NEED enemies.

[SlightOfTongue]

If we have even a minor act of terrorism discovered with the infiltration linked to crossing the border, the political back-lash will be enormous.

This would not be a minor terrorist act, per se, but shows you how lax and failing our deportation system can be, especially on the 'Left Coast"!

I can't remember the case, but wasn't some illegal Mexican creep released from custody on the premise that he must return to Mexico or go to jail for a long term, after which he never went back, hung around the San Diego area, kidnapped, raped and murdered some 12-year-old girl?

I think it happened a year or so ago? Anybody have some knowledge or recall anything about the case?

[Uncle Bill]

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