[billbears]

The fans citizens have no longer earned the right to go out on the field after the game (own guns, speak out against their government, etc), they can't be trusted. I'm sure it's a small percentage of the fans citizens, but they've ruined it for everybody else.

Funny what replacing a few words will do, huh? I agree somewhat with your response and I would argue for a solution something to the effect of what my fellow North Carolinian suggested. Goalposts that are made out of something less than steel and iron, something disposable. It's not like they're ever struck, so something of a lesser weight and less expensive material could be used. Then again, I can see where that would not only condone more run outs, but they would probably increase.

I do agree it's a problem, but I don't see how more police are necessarily going to be the solution

[Luis Gonzalez]

Destruction of property, and rioting have never been allowed under any circumstance. I don't see this as a "big government" issue, but rather a "moron brigade" that could possibly ruin things for everyone.

If the fans/citizens can't police themselves, and continue to destroy other people's property (the bill for the clean-up and repairs will be footed by taxpayers), then let the police police them, and let their "right" to exhibit idiotic behavior be taken from them.

I bet you that not one rioter overturned and torched their own vehicle.

[discostu]

Cute but sadly misguided. You see the things you outlined are rights garuanteed to us in the Bill of Rights. No where in there is there a right to go onto private property after a sporting event and destroy equipment.

I don't think you want the goalposts made out of something more "disposable", doing that would put them in the endzone again, which caused problems for offenses and caused a number of injuries. Do some reading of football history, don't have to go too far back, the Ice Bowl was dones with the old-fashioned "field hazard" posts. Also thanks to the new age of place kickers that need the posts high for easier judging of the accuracy of kicks. Really a bad idea. And misplacing the issue. The problem isn't WHAT'S being destroyed but that ANYTHING is being destroyed at all. It's criminal behavior.

[stainlessbanner]

Hey Billbears, looks like you are make some new friends on this thread, geez!

Buddy goes to Italy for a pro soccer game. Fans are caged in - separated by a 30 ft. high plexi-glass wall. The fans are tossin' firecrackers over the wall at each other and throwin' anything else they can find. The entire game, these guys are pounding on the glass, face-to-face, fist to fist.

After the game, he's riding a bus out of the stadium, fans are rocking cars, throwin' bottles at the bus, spittin at the LEOs (who carried M-16s, btw). He was scared to death! That ain't fun in my book.

One more thing, Bobby and the boys will be back next year. Enjoy the win.

[Chemist_Geek]

Funny what replacing a few words will do, huh?

The Right of the People to riot and destroy others' property, shall not be Infringed?