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U.S., Mexican legislators discuss border vigilantes - States may stop groups targeting illegals
Associated Press ^ | November 24, 2002 | Associated Press Staff

Posted on 11/24/2002 2:06:29 AM PST by MeekOneGOP


U.S., Mexican legislators discuss border vigilantes

States may take action against groups that target migrants

11/24/2002

Associated Press

NUEVO LAREDO, Mexico - U.S. and Mexican lawmakers expressed concern Saturday about a growing number of American vigilante groups that capture and sometimes hurt or kill Mexican migrants who cross into the United States illegally.

The fringe groups have sprung up in several border towns in Arizona, New Mexico and Texas, where residents frustrated by U.S. border agents' inability to stop illegal migration have taken matters into their own hands, said Arizona state Rep. Robert Cannell.

Mr. Cannell said Arizona legislators will likely take up the issue of vigilante groups during the state's next legislative session. The Democrat said he was "strongly opposed" to the groups.

Mr. Cannell was one of eight U.S. state legislators - three from New Mexico, two from California, two from Arizona, and one from Texas - who joined 38 lawmakers from the six Mexican border states at the third annual legislative border forum in Nuevo Laredo.

In separate Binational Commission meetings on Monday and Tuesday in Mexico City, high-ranking U.S. officials, including Secretary of State Colin Powell, will hold talks with their Mexican counterparts on what to do about the estimated 3 million Mexicans working illegally in the United States.

New Mexico state Sen. Mary Jane Garcia said vigilante groups appeal to undereducated young men who feel that state and federal governments haven't done enough to protect towns along the border. The Democrat said the issue also needed urgent attention in the New Mexico legislature.

Also on Saturday, Chihuahua state lawmaker Cesar Castro Lopez called on investigators from the FBI and Britain's Scotland Yard to help solve the brutal slayings of women in Ciudad Juarez.

More than 75 women have been raped and killed since 1993 in Ciudad Juarez, the border's largest city. Dozens of suspects have been arrested, but bodies have continued to turn up in the desert.

Mr. Castro Lopez said that Mexican state and federal commissions assigned to investigate the crimes have failed to produce any concrete leads.

"It has become a financial issue of vital importance for those who do business on the border," he said, adding that violence in Juarez has begun to affect U.S. commercial interests, thus ensuring that the killings fall under U.S. jurisdiction.

The killings have "ruined the reputation of Ciudad Juarez in the eyes of the world," Mr. Castro Lopez said.


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dallas/tsw/stories/112402dntexvigilantes.b2a17.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccrm; illegalimmigrants; vigilantegroups
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To: PRND21
Don't answer a question with a question.

I didnt ask you a question. We are talking about the rule of law and I told you that it can be found in the constitution. Err and to how it protects our society.

Look up general welfare that should be an easy one for you.

181 posted on 11/25/2002 12:49:35 PM PST by PuNcH
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To: PuNcH
Specifically the problem is that our border is too freaking long to ever effectively gaurd, but even given that we don't give the BP nearly enough manpower and equipment to do even a half assed job and gaurd the urbanized areas of the border. Meanwhile the People's Republic of Kalifornia is just about begging illegals to come there. And the whole situation sucks and it's not gonna get any better until Mexico stops being a crappy country to live in.
182 posted on 11/25/2002 12:51:10 PM PST by discostu
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To: discostu
Specifically the problem is that our border is too freaking long to ever effectively gaurd,

We could take care of most of the illegal immigration problem we have now without guarding the border at all. If we said no to anymore handouts, went after employers and made a clear statement about no more amnesties, that alone would probably cut the numbers of illegals by more than half.

183 posted on 11/25/2002 12:55:54 PM PST by PuNcH
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To: PuNcH
A demand side approach, could help, wouldn't hurt. But in the end we're the land of opportunity and Mexico is a large collection of people desperate for opportunity. A suprisingly insightful description of the root problem was laid out by Steely Dan in their song "The Royal Scam" (on the album of the same name), they're focused on islanders (Jamaicans, maybe Haitians) but it still applies.
184 posted on 11/25/2002 1:01:20 PM PST by discostu
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To: WashingtonCollegeofLaw
Its next to impossible to sue the federal government
"Bummer" LOL Well, can't we sue the officials, or are they considered the "government"? Or perhaps massive recalls... Seems as if I am suggesting all the actions we CAN'T take. How about YOU, Mr. Law, come up with a plan for what WE may do!? Looking forward to hearing from you :)
185 posted on 11/25/2002 5:07:38 PM PST by Libertina
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To: PuNcH
Come on. You said there were laws to protect society. Enough deflection. Name one!
186 posted on 11/25/2002 9:08:43 PM PST by PRND21
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To: 11B3
Hey warrior, thanks for the kind comments. All my friends here on FR definitely make the job all the more worthwhile
187 posted on 11/27/2002 2:11:06 AM PST by Ajnin
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To: Exton1
"What a clown you are. ALL THE DOCUMENTS YOU LISTED ARE WRITTEN IN ENGLISH......"

Which means absolutely nothing...Bozo. The Constitution could be written in German, Swahili, Spanish or Klingon and it wouldn't change a thing. The importance of that document lies in it's content not in the "immigrant" language that it was written in.

And very simply, that document, along with the Bill of Rights, DOES NOT establish an official language, religion, culture or even regional preference for the nation of origin of immigrants.

That document says that an elderly woman citizen of this nation, who happens to be of Vietnamese ancestory and who speaks only Vietnamese in the conduct of her life as an American citizen, is every bit an American as you are.

That document says that if a citizen of Spanish decent wishes to speak Spanish and observe cultural styles consistent with that practised by their ancestors, they are just as American as you are...no more and certainly no less.

As you say, when in Rome...well they haven't spoken Latin in Rome in many Centurys.

As for not being able to understand the Constitution unless you understand English...you answer that question with your own words. You don't seem to understand it at all.

188 posted on 11/28/2002 4:21:35 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: MeeknMing
If our government refuses to protect us from the invasion by the enemy crossing our borders, then we have no choice but to protect ourselves.
189 posted on 11/28/2002 4:37:01 PM PST by Dante3
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