Hell Hath No Fury Like a Conservative Who Is Victorious

New York Times ^ | Nov 24, 2002 | ADAM COHEN

[The Raven]

Now the NY Times doesn't like the right to assemble? You betch'a !!

When the ideals of free enterprise and capitalism are discussed in friendly terms with no liberals about to shout down the message - what are they to do??

The answer of course, is to put a negative label on the Federalist Society.

[Jason Kauppinen]

I'm curious about the label they've selected for themselves. Wouldn't conservatives be more likely to be _anti_federalist? Their position on anti-trust laws certainly seems to me to be anti-federalist.

[Post Toasties]

Adam Cohen shows how utterly biased he is with his dismissal of 'Travelgate' where the x42 administration peremptorily forced the entire WH Travel Office to clean out their desks without prior notice on baseless accusations so that friends of Hilliary could take their positions.

They then went further, indicting Billy Dale on trumped up charges, forcing him to spend over half a million dollars to defend himself against these false accusations.

"...not much"...? Absolutely incorrect. This was an egregious abuse of power by x42.

[Pookie Me]

Being a former member of the Federalist Society when I was in law school, it follows the path of James Madison and the Federalist papers. Small Government. State's Rights.

Didn't realize we were so all powerful. Almost like Rush now, I guess. The left is looking for targets.

Pookie & ME

[jammer]

I think you make a mistake commonly made on this forum regarding the term "federalism". Please check the definition, which means the opposite of what many intend, and that will answer your question.

[Slip18]

"They are using their informal network to place conservative true believers in influential positions throughout the federal government, from Supreme Court clerkships to top agency posts."

Oh, this is just awful. < /sarcasm >

[The Raven]

Wouldn't conservatives be more likely to be anti-federalist?

No - not really [James Madison was a federalist]

From Dictionary.com the definition of federalism is:

A system of government in which power is divided between a central authority and constituent political units

From encarta..

"a national or international political system in which two levels of government control the same territory and citizens. Countries with federal political systems have both a central government and governments based in smaller political units, usually called states, provinces, or territories. These smaller political units surrender some of their political power to the central government, relying on it to act for the common good.

... Federal political systems are relatively uncommon around the world. Instead, most countries are unitary systems, with laws giving virtually all authority to the central government. The central government may delegate duties to cities or other administrative units, but it retains final authority and can retract any tasks it has delegated.

Also check out the web site background on the Federalist Society.

[wotan]

Congratulations to Adam Cohen! I have never felt more
optimistic about the direction our courts will be taking.

[IoCaster]

"Before one event, a graybeard in the audience tutored a wet-behind-the-ears Federalist on the horrors of Travelgate, in which the Clinton White House did — well, nothing much, really."

What a crock of SH!T. Tell that to Billy Dale. What about all the other people who were summarily fired and slandered? This was Hillary at her rapacious worst. This author is a lying SOB.

[Mmmike]

If you guys have finally overtaken the ABA then by all means my hat's off to you. :-)

[Congressman Billybob]

All of this article demonstrates that the author is a political bigot. No surprise there, he works for the New York Times. Inferentially, he is also a Harvard lawyer.

The real proof of the dishonesty of this article comes, however, in the next-to-last paragraph. There, the author claims that the Supreme Court has become "activist" by strking down the Violence Against Women Act and the Gun Free School Zones Act. Anyone who has bothered to read those two decisions knows that in both cases the Court concluded that THE CONSTITUTION GAVE CONGRESS NO POWER TO PASS THOSE ACTS.

This is not the work of an "activist" Court. This is the work of a Court which believes in following the Constitution wherever it leads (at least a majority of the Court, anyway). And that is a worthy, and "conservative" goal.

The only "truth" in this entire article can be boiled down to two sentences: "I don't like the Federalist Society." And, "I don't think people like that should be judges." And the answer to that is, "You may be a leftist Harvard lawyer and that makes you both snotty and acceptable to the Times, but the people have spoken. We win and you lose. Got that?"

Congressman Billybob

Click for "Below the Radar -- The Other Republican Victory" (first column run on UPI)

Click for "to Restore Trust in America"

[goldstategop]

We're like the Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion. A vast, frightening, and secret cabal controlling President Bush like a puppet on strings and settling the fate of the planet. And getting rid of foes by means fair or foul. The problem is the Federalist Society is nothing like the bogeyman conjured up in Adam Cohen's fertile imagination. For rest assured if it were true, he wouldn't be able to breathe, much less than write a single word about it. I know liberals are frightened of conservative judges like children are afraid of the dark. But with time they will discover their fears were greatly exaggerated and for now they'd better stop whimpering and get along with the program. Oh and hell hath no fury like a kinder and gentler conservative to defang their malovelent and unjustified fury. That's the part I enjoy with much anticipation looking forward to next year in Washington.

[Savage Beast]

Cohen and his ilk had better get some strong linament. They're gonna be a hell of a lot more sore in the years to come.

The victory exploded with hellish fury not just from conservatives but from the rest of us non-"Liberals" as well.

And speaking of hell, "Liberals" had better heed the warnings of this hellish fury and abandon hope of ever achieving their agenda. The electorate is aware of the real meaning of their self-serving "good intentions" and awake to the realization that these "good intentions" will take us all--if we let them--down that well known, well paved road.

[Cacique]

btt

[joyful1]

Keep it up! Keep it up! Keep it up!

Isn't this rich!! The NY Times has no idea what hit them, nor what it means!! What a bunch of spoiled rotten babies!

[fporretto]

You know, the Times hasn't been welcome in my home for a long time, but I never expected to see it descend this far. They appear to have lost all sense of obligation to separate fact from opinion and keep the two clearly labeled.

I have no problem with them having their own opinions, as silly as I consider those opinions to be, but it's not responsible journalism to spread the kind of distortions Mr. Cohen's article indulges, even on the editorial page.

No wonder the Old Media are so terrified of the Internet. Something like this article will be dissected twenty-three ways from Sunday and fact-checked by a million people who know better. The only folks it will persuade are the already-converted. Sorry, Mr. Cohen. Your day is just about over.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit the Palace Of Reason: http://palaceofreason.com

[Savage Beast]

"This was an egregious abuse of power"

Of course. But to "Liberals", it was, "— well, nothing much, really."

This speaks volumes.

Anthing that serves their vile, self-serving agenda is "— well, nothing much, really." Anything at all.

This the epitome of "Liberalism".

[Illbay]

The NYT warning us about the next "Beer Hall Putsch."

[Illbay]

Conservatives have a LONG way to go to equalize with the many, many anti-Constitutionalists put in these positions by Nixon, Carter, Ford and Clinton.

[Savage Beast]

Post #5: That was a good suggestion, Jam. I did look it up, and the meaning was not exactly what I had thought. In fact, it hadn't occurred to me that I might not know what "federalism" means--and I didn't.

I find the dictionary and thesaurus functions of the computer immensely useful in precise communication. It's so easy to look things up, find out how old the word is in the language, and its derivation and original meaning, which lead to precise usage.