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Top Terrorist Talking (Nashiri)
ABC News ^ | 11/22/02 | John McWethy, contributor

Posted on 11/22/2002 3:43:16 PM PST by Heartlander2

A top al Qaeda lieutenant in U.S. custody is talking to interrogators, and U.S. officials believe he knows the recent locations of Osama bin Laden as well as the current targets of al Qaeda forces worldwide, ABCNEWS has learned.

Abdul Rahim al-Nashiri has already provided what officials hope is important new information about future terrorist plots, people he recruited and terror cells he created, sources told ABCNEWS. U.S. officials also said al-Nashiri was carrying a computer and cell phone at the time of his arrest that could provide valuable information about recent al Qaeda operations.

Al-Nashiri, the network's chief of operations in the Persian Gulf and the man U.S. officials suspect of masterminding the October 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, was captured about two weeks ago in Yemen on his way to Malaysia.

Although the capture of the senior al Qaeda leader was made public last week, U.S. officials declined to identify al-Nashiri until Thursday.

Al-Nashiri is one of the terror organization's earliest members, whose ties with bin Laden date to what was believed to be al Qaeda's first anti-Western attack.

In 1992, a bomb exploded at a hotel frequented by U.S. military personnel in the Yemeni port of Aden. An Austrian tourist and a Yemeni hotel worker were killed. No Americans were harmed.

According to a report in the New York Post today, U.S. officials revealed the al Qaeda captive's name in a move they hoped would panic bin Laden into moving — which could make him vulnerable to capture.

The report came as U.S. military and intelligence sources told the Post a top-secret mission to use elite Delta Force commandos to seize bin Laden fell apart after al-Nashiri refused to disclose the terror master's hideout.

Al-Nashiri is the highest-ranking al Qaeda operative captured since the CIA, FBI and Pakistani authorities captured bin Laden's operations chief, Abu Zubaydah, in Faisalabad, Pakistan, in March.

As the U.S. government has captured or killed a number of bin Laden's top people, al-Nashiri has risen to near the top. Officials say he was in charge of terrorist cells operating in the Persian Gulf, some in Asia and was in the midst of planning several operations.

Although bin Laden and his close associate, the Egyptian Ayman al-Zawahiri, are still at large, Nashiri's capture is believed to be a major development in Washington's crackdown on al Qaeda.

Speaking to reporters in Russia today after holding talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin, President Bush said, "America and Russia are one person safer" as a result of al-Nashiri's capture.

A String of Attacks

Al-Nashiri's résumé includes involvement in major attacks against the United States.

Over a period of two years, sources told ABCNEWS, al-Nashiri organized and financed the attack on the Cole that killed 17 American sailors two years ago. He slipped out of Yemen four days before his suicide bombers struck, giving them final instructions by phone from the United Arab Emirates.

For the August 1998 bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya, al-Nashiri recruited then allegedly helped train his own cousin as a suicide bomber.

In Morocco earlier this year, he was the alleged organizer and financier of efforts to kill tourists and blow up ships coming through the Strait of Gibraltar.

A U.S. defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity, also told The Associated Press that U.S. intelligence believes al-Nashiri was behind the Oct. 6 attack on a French tanker off the coast of Yemen that left one crewman dead.

"This is a person who is totally dedicated to destroying people from the West, to destroying Americans and American interests," said Skip Brandon, a former senior FBI intelligence official.

"This is what he does for a living, and unfortunately with great dedication and great zeal."

Osama’s Countryman

Like bin Laden himself, al-Nashiri was born in Saudi Arabia but his ancestral homeland is Yemen.

The Associated Press identified his birthplace as Mecca, the holiest city in Islam.

Al-Nashiri fought with bin Laden against the Soviets in Afghanistan 20 years ago, and was reportedly with bin Laden last year in Afghanistan when the U.S. began its campaign against the Taliban and al Qaeda.

U.S. officials are not saying where al-Nashiri is being held — except that it is not in the United States. His capture officials say, has already set in motion U.S. operations to go after the terrorist structure he was building.

ABCNEWS knew about al-Nashiri's arrest for several days, but high-ranking government officials had asked the corporation not to reveal the name in the hopes that the government could use the information al-Nashiri had revealed to get ahead of the curve on the terrorist cells.

ABCNEWS made a corporate decision not to reveal his name for several days.


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1 posted on 11/22/2002 3:43:16 PM PST by Heartlander2
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To: Heartlander2
Is anyone else as confused as me regarding all the terrorists supposedly giving up the goods on each other? This is supposedly a group of fanatical people with a very specific goal in mind. Why in the world would they roll-over on each other as soon as they are captured? Its not like we are going to go easier on them for information. Any opinions on this subject or are we being fed BS?
2 posted on 11/22/2002 3:48:04 PM PST by godghelpus
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To: Heartlander2
Top Terrorist Talking (Nashiri)

Damn straight he's talking! If he's not talking, that means that the CIA isn't beating him hard enough. I hope the President signed paperwork relegating this scumball's civil rights to the trashcan.

I say find out what this guy knows, put him in front of a military tribunal, then push him out of a C-130 over the north Atlantic.

3 posted on 11/22/2002 3:49:52 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: godghelpus
well, consider that the pentagon has some guys who want to confuse the enemy. so, what they do is "leak" some info to the press, who always think they have a scoop because they like to think they are smart.

the information is false, to mislead the enemy.

..........maybe........hahahha
4 posted on 11/22/2002 3:54:36 PM PST by galt-jw
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To: godghelpus
The CIA has a lot better methods than the old "truth serum" to get anyone they want to talk.
Perhaps, they have also been watching the movies and taking notes...like electrodes to the sensitive parts while running water over the subject hanging from a meathook....I think I saw that in one of the "Lethal Weapon" movies...
5 posted on 11/22/2002 3:56:06 PM PST by KriegerGeist
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To: godghelpus
Oh, you know what would happen if he escaped and/or was released? He would be killed as a collaborator.
6 posted on 11/22/2002 3:56:51 PM PST by PokeyJoe
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I have a hunch he may already have been shown just such an open aircraft door during its flight to assist his recall of names, dates and places.
7 posted on 11/22/2002 3:57:18 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: godghelpus
Some of this is disinfo to sow dissension in the ranks.

And not being held in a US jail on US soil means that that services of say, Egypt, Jordan or Turkey or even some other small unnamed nation are being utillised.

People have mentioned Versed, Sodium Pentathol or perhaps some new substances to make people talk.

Or perhaps we bring in some relatives to loosen their tongues.
8 posted on 11/22/2002 3:59:54 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: godghelpus
are we being fed BS?

More likely CC (Camel Cr@p) But when one of these camel herders with petro dollars tells you they are planning on killing these people or blowing up that building, you can hardly afford to discount it completely. The same goes for the location of the goat humpers.

9 posted on 11/22/2002 4:04:03 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Heartlander2
No one knows how they would respond under pressure until they actually find themselves in such a situation.

There are a number of possibilities. Maybe he's the kind of guy who likes to send in other people to die, but didn't expect to get captured himself. Maybe he was tricked into revealing certain information, and once he opened up that encouraged him to talk more. Maybe he hasn't talked at all, but the CIA wants his friends to think he has.

Presumably we are only being told what the authorities want us (and al Qaeda) to know.
10 posted on 11/22/2002 4:05:33 PM PST by Cicero
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
push him out of a C-130 over the north Atlantic

That will never do. A C-17 could make the fall alot longer.

11 posted on 11/22/2002 4:05:56 PM PST by El Gato
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To: godghelpus
Why in the world would they roll-over on each other as soon as they are captured? Its not like we are going to go easier on them for information. Any opinions on this subject or are we being fed BS?

It's impossible to know whether captured terrorists are spilling their guts, nor is there any way we can know what interrogation methods are being used. If this guy really is talking, I'm sure it's not because he's cutting a deal for a lighter prison sentence. It would either be because of drugs or torture (perhaps by one of our "allies") or expert psychological tricks and pressure.

But in a larger sense it doesn't really matter whether he is talking or not. Oh sure, it matters if we can get specific bits of information out of him that will lead to the capture of other terrorists and the short-circuiting of planned attacks. But a far more important message is being broadcast to the Al Queda and other groups: You never know who you can trust or who will betray you. Your leaders might crack under questioning and rat you out. If the Americans can capture Abdul Rahim al-Nashiri and make him talk, you could be next (unless a Predator missile finds you first). And are you sure those new recruits who are replacing your dead comrades aren't really undercover agents?

This article is psy-ops, pure and simple. In that respect its truthfulness or lack thereof is largely irrelevant.

12 posted on 11/22/2002 4:06:39 PM PST by dpwiener
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To: Heartlander2
I hear that the bastinado is a great tongue loosener.
13 posted on 11/22/2002 4:07:15 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: godghelpus
They roll over and talk because they are true believers, they are proud of their "holy mission", and they feel they have nothing to hide because it is the will of allah that they succeed, and their capture means nothing.
14 posted on 11/22/2002 4:09:24 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Cicero; dennisw; swarthyguy; piasa
^ Bump to my theory. ^
15 posted on 11/22/2002 4:10:32 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: El Gato
Right on, a C-17 sure works for me. Let him dream of paradise and wake up wondering who turned off the A/C and why a big red guy with horns is jabbing him in the butt with a pitchfork.
16 posted on 11/22/2002 4:14:16 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: swarthyguy
Exactly....maybe he isn't talking at all......but Bin Laden and crew don't know that........but it will sure cause panic in the ranks.....bet you we are watching to see who bolts from their hidey hole.
17 posted on 11/22/2002 4:18:46 PM PST by Dog
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To: Travis McGee
What theory is that??
18 posted on 11/22/2002 4:21:31 PM PST by Dog
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To: Heartlander2
Should read: "DEAD MAN WALKING..."
19 posted on 11/22/2002 4:27:53 PM PST by Greek
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To: Heartlander2
The announcent of his talking being leaked to the press could be part of the good guy bad guy senerio.

You tell him that you will tell the world he is talking and then if he doesn't, you tell him that you will cut him loose.

He didn't talk, HE didn't talk = Strike #2.

Now if he talks, no strike #3. If he does not talk, sorry your OUT...

Why else would the press have this story?

Tom
20 posted on 11/22/2002 4:34:28 PM PST by tall_tex
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