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To: Heartlander2
Is anyone else as confused as me regarding all the terrorists supposedly giving up the goods on each other? This is supposedly a group of fanatical people with a very specific goal in mind. Why in the world would they roll-over on each other as soon as they are captured? Its not like we are going to go easier on them for information. Any opinions on this subject or are we being fed BS?
2 posted on 11/22/2002 3:48:04 PM PST by godghelpus
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To: godghelpus
well, consider that the pentagon has some guys who want to confuse the enemy. so, what they do is "leak" some info to the press, who always think they have a scoop because they like to think they are smart.

the information is false, to mislead the enemy.

..........maybe........hahahha
4 posted on 11/22/2002 3:54:36 PM PST by galt-jw
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To: godghelpus
The CIA has a lot better methods than the old "truth serum" to get anyone they want to talk.
Perhaps, they have also been watching the movies and taking notes...like electrodes to the sensitive parts while running water over the subject hanging from a meathook....I think I saw that in one of the "Lethal Weapon" movies...
5 posted on 11/22/2002 3:56:06 PM PST by KriegerGeist
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To: godghelpus
Oh, you know what would happen if he escaped and/or was released? He would be killed as a collaborator.
6 posted on 11/22/2002 3:56:51 PM PST by PokeyJoe
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To: godghelpus
Some of this is disinfo to sow dissension in the ranks.

And not being held in a US jail on US soil means that that services of say, Egypt, Jordan or Turkey or even some other small unnamed nation are being utillised.

People have mentioned Versed, Sodium Pentathol or perhaps some new substances to make people talk.

Or perhaps we bring in some relatives to loosen their tongues.
8 posted on 11/22/2002 3:59:54 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: godghelpus
are we being fed BS?

More likely CC (Camel Cr@p) But when one of these camel herders with petro dollars tells you they are planning on killing these people or blowing up that building, you can hardly afford to discount it completely. The same goes for the location of the goat humpers.

9 posted on 11/22/2002 4:04:03 PM PST by El Gato
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To: godghelpus
Why in the world would they roll-over on each other as soon as they are captured? Its not like we are going to go easier on them for information. Any opinions on this subject or are we being fed BS?

It's impossible to know whether captured terrorists are spilling their guts, nor is there any way we can know what interrogation methods are being used. If this guy really is talking, I'm sure it's not because he's cutting a deal for a lighter prison sentence. It would either be because of drugs or torture (perhaps by one of our "allies") or expert psychological tricks and pressure.

But in a larger sense it doesn't really matter whether he is talking or not. Oh sure, it matters if we can get specific bits of information out of him that will lead to the capture of other terrorists and the short-circuiting of planned attacks. But a far more important message is being broadcast to the Al Queda and other groups: You never know who you can trust or who will betray you. Your leaders might crack under questioning and rat you out. If the Americans can capture Abdul Rahim al-Nashiri and make him talk, you could be next (unless a Predator missile finds you first). And are you sure those new recruits who are replacing your dead comrades aren't really undercover agents?

This article is psy-ops, pure and simple. In that respect its truthfulness or lack thereof is largely irrelevant.

12 posted on 11/22/2002 4:06:39 PM PST by dpwiener
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To: godghelpus
They roll over and talk because they are true believers, they are proud of their "holy mission", and they feel they have nothing to hide because it is the will of allah that they succeed, and their capture means nothing.
14 posted on 11/22/2002 4:09:24 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: godghelpus
Any opinions on this subject or are we being fed BS?

A few years back the FBI did a study that concluded that there's more than one kind of terrorist. There are

  1. The totally committed, rabidly fanatic "footsoldiers." These folks make great suicide bombers. Some form of deprogramming may loosen their tongues (Don't know if it's been tried. Might be a violation of their rights).
  2. Opportunists, who pretend to believe because it gets them in a position to hurt people and steal stuff for their own benefit. These are somewhat cunning thugs. Theye're dangerous, but don't want to die for the cause.
  3. Leaders. These people use "the cause" in the most cynical way to manipulate others, purely for their own sense of power and aggrandizement. They might get caught up in their own myth, but generally will do anything to avoid dieing for the cause.

Opportunists and leaders might be willing to cut a deal to improve their position. Leaders are the most egomaniacal of psychopaths, who might also shoot their mouths off just to puff themselves up.

Seeing a news report saying they talked might also encourage some of these people to talk, when they realize that if they're ever freed, their own "friends" will kill them just in case the story is true.

Does that help any?

22 posted on 11/22/2002 5:46:37 PM PST by irv
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To: godghelpus
Is anyone else as confused as me regarding all the terrorists supposedly giving up the goods on each other? This is supposedly a group of fanatical people with a very specific goal in mind. Why in the world would they roll-over on each other as soon as they are captured?

They're fanatical about sending expendible minions to die for Allah. They ain't so hot on being on the hot seat themselves.

27 posted on 11/22/2002 10:09:23 PM PST by steve-b
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