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1 posted on 11/22/2002 11:58:45 AM PST by Gritty
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These people bombs, gas, and otherwise kill their own and Jews during Ramadan. Every time I hear the word, it's like listening to Stainman opening his mouth.
2 posted on 11/22/2002 12:02:25 PM PST by Cobra64
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Steyn bump!
3 posted on 11/22/2002 12:06:30 PM PST by Notforprophet
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If they want to abstain from violence on all religious holidays not just Muslim but also Christian, Jewish and Hindu. Including not firing at our planes in the no-fly zone, I'm sure that we would be more than happy to do the same. And since they have the bigger history of attacking others on religious holidays they should abstain first.

But if they want to continue in their ways, then I hope they get a blast out of Ramadan.
5 posted on 11/22/2002 12:13:09 PM PST by DannyTN
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Yet another Steyn slash straight across the jugular. The man literally never misses his mark.

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6 posted on 11/22/2002 1:11:46 PM PST by fporretto
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Steyn bump
9 posted on 11/22/2002 1:23:12 PM PST by Lyford
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The longer this already too long period of phony war continues, the more likely it is that even these stalwarts will decay and Canadianize.

I live in New Jersey. We canadianized about twenty years ago.

10 posted on 11/22/2002 1:30:14 PM PST by dead
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We have to change the hearts and minds of millions of Muslims, too many of whom are at best indifferent to great evil.

Hey, we have a system for that - worked in 'Nam. "Give me your hearts and minds or we'll burn your %#$@ing huts down!"

11 posted on 11/22/2002 1:35:06 PM PST by Billthedrill
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Great column. Somehow i don't think the WH gets to read these.

But, a nit, this is the statement that i disagree with -

>>As things stand, there are only three countries that are serious about the "war on terror": America, Britain and Australia.

I think he needs to add Israel, Russia and India even the Phillipines, and hopefully, Turkey.
12 posted on 11/22/2002 1:35:45 PM PST by swarthyguy
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Canada's more "moderate" approach is that as long
as they kill just a few Canadians -- say, hold it under
three figures annually -- we can, so to speak, live with them.

Fair enough, but it's not just Canada.  How many people
does OJ Simpson have to kill before it is murder?
More than two.  Or how many Branch Davidians
does the Justice Department have to kill before it
is mass murder?

15 posted on 11/22/2002 1:43:23 PM PST by gcruse
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Steyn is impatient, but he's simply wrong. Bush is not stopping for Ramadan. We're not in position yet.
17 posted on 11/22/2002 1:46:47 PM PST by Dog Gone
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Bump
19 posted on 11/22/2002 1:54:00 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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BTTT!

If not bomb now, when?

If not bomb Saddam, who?

Who cares if the Islamafascists will be upset, they hate us anyway...even when we feed and clothe them.
23 posted on 11/22/2002 2:35:13 PM PST by hattend
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So now they're deliberately making the United States more Islamic. Lovely.

It's all a part of Bush's superior strategery, no doubt.
27 posted on 11/22/2002 3:23:47 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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And, given that several Hezbollah execs seem to be running around Gaza with Canadian passports, in terms of how many Canucks are murdered and how many are murderers, it's probably a wash.

Steyn is like a skilled surgeoan--there is always a clean, direct cut that can be found in the midst of all his beautiful prose.

30 posted on 11/22/2002 5:14:09 PM PST by foreshadowed at waco
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Hows about HAMAS calls a bombing pause during Ramadan, it being such a holy, important month and all.
34 posted on 11/23/2002 1:44:58 AM PST by xm177e2
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Indeed, the evidence from Afghanistan, Chechnya, Bali and North London suggests that it's now the ideology of choice for the world's troublemakers, as Communism once was.


38 posted on 11/23/2002 6:55:07 AM PST by dennisw
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There has been the traditional annual call for a "bombing pause" during Ramadan


Ok, nothing but missiles, rockets, artillery.
But no bombs!
40 posted on 11/23/2002 7:17:54 AM PST by Valin
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Great article.

Think about how long and how much we've talked about, and the press has billions of gallons of ink on, the supposed war on Iraq. Last spring, the "imminent" war on Iraq was the reason why we placated and appeased Arafat after the bloody strings of [now forgotten] bombings. Remember the Powell mission?

Since then, the "imminent" war on Iraq has been the stated reason for every action which compromises with Palestinian terror or other so-called "friendly" states in the Islamic world -- from Pakistan to Saudi Arabia to Kuwait to Jordan.

At this point all I can say is: What war on Iraq??? We're less likely to attack now or in the forseeable future than we were a year ago.

The war that is the explanation for everything is the war that never happens. It's weird.

Somehow, I have to think that it's more of a go-along-to-get-along philosophy and a fear over shaking the economy that is driving events, not any supposed war on Iraq.

45 posted on 11/23/2002 9:18:46 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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'"Our nation is waging a war on a radical network of terrorists, not on a religion and not on a civilization."

Not true.'

Correct, NOT TRUE. The Muslims rioting in Nigeria, over some silly joke about "What would Mohamed do?" are not terrorists. The people who are sentencing women to death by stoning in Nigeria are not terrorists, they're THE GOVERNMENT! The royals of Saudi Arabia, who won't permit any other religion than Islam to be practiced in their countries aren't terrorists, their OUR ALLIES!

We most certainly ARE in a struggle with a civilization, an uncivilized civilization to be sure, but NOT with just a bunch of rogue terrorists. Radical muslims have been killing Christians and other "infidels" around the world for years, with impunity. If we will not fight this battle for what it is, we will lose.
46 posted on 11/23/2002 9:33:11 AM PST by jocon307
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you can be equivocal about bin Laden and an apologist for suicide bombers, and still get a photo-op with Dubya; you can be a member of a regime whose state TV stations and government-owned newspapers call for Muslims to kill all Jews and Christians, and you'll still get to kick your shoes off with George and Laura at the Crawford ranch.

It is this aspect which arouses in me the most anger. George W. is breaking bread with the enemy, while they actively plan our extermination. If he does not change course now, he will be forever damned by history.

49 posted on 11/23/2002 10:06:52 AM PST by montag813
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