Posted on 11/21/2002 8:12:16 PM PST by Common Tator
Daschle tried to prevent the confirmation. It blew up in his face. Dashle got on the floor in the afternoon and talked like he had the votes to block. That is what Rush saw reported and belived it. Rush only knows what he gets on the wire from UPI, AP, and the ABC backgrounder feeds.
It may surprise you to learn that Lott and Bush don't confide in those news people. Daschle talks to them a lot... He Lies. They media it 180 degrees wrong. After a recess later in the day Daschle called for a vote and the nominee was confirmed.
Daschle could not get 40 votes to stop cloture so he called for a vote rather than face open defeat. Daschle did a head count and he learned he would be losing a public vote on both the cloture and the confirmation. He folded like a wet towel.
The nominee Rush talked about was Senator Thurman's former assistant and he was confirmed by a vote of 55 to 45. Bush got 6 Democratic votes for Strom on that one. Dashle tried his best to get it lower. But 6 Dempocrats flat out defied him. And the same 65 were there for cloture. The others only went with Daschle when they were assured that Strom's nominee would be confirmed.
Strom Thurman got up after the vote an thanked the Senators who voted for his nominee. At that point nearly all Senators including most of the Democrats gave Strom Thurman a Standing Ovation. It was an emotional moment for Strom and bi-partisan rebuke of Dashle and Leahy.
You have it all wrong. Bush wanted 2 nominees passed. He wanted the two Daschle and Leahy were most opposed to.. What part of Bush got them both don't you understand?
Of course, Daschle will jabber about "threaths" made to him, his family and other dems, but will he ever mention, or acknowledge the comments which that erudite dem spokesman, Alec Baldwin made about (oh I hate getting old ... c'mon memory) was it either Hyde or Starr? The threaths to the family made on one of those night time talk shows?
Now that, to me, was a direct threat which was not criticized or disavowed by the left. But seeing Baldwin is a darling of the left, the only ones incensed over it were the ones that Dashle attacked, as being attackers.
Has Dashle called the cops about any of these threats? Has Dashle reported Baldwin as a possible threat to elected officials he does not agree with -- a threat to national security?
I don't think so. /end rant
The ratings show it. The first week of sweeps just past, had NBC with a total audience of 14.6 million people. What that means in a week 14.6 million different people watch at least part of at least one NBC show. Around the clock for a week only 14.6 million different people tuned to an NBC station or cable channel.
During that same week 14.5 million different people tuned in to the Rush Limbaugh Show. As many people hear RUSH as watch all that NBC SHOWS combined. RUSH is reaching way more people than Brokaw.
If that don't make your brown eyes blue,consider that HANNITY reaches more people per week than ABC. Yes Sireee. Hannity has more people listening to just his show than the ENTIRE ABC TV network reaches with all their shows.
That may give you a clue as to why Eisener said ABC TV maybe gone in 5 years, but ABC radio is doing well. Shawn Hannity's radio show is on ABC radio. He is garnering 10.1 million separate viewers every week.
That is the most scary thought a Democrat can have.
The same day daschle attacks (the all-knowing, all-seeing all-sensing, all-caring, all-feeeeeling) Maha Rushie, the Old York Times features two stories on the Roger Ailes/Rove/Bush blurb in bob woodward's new book.
Is it coincidence that: 1.) Woodward's new book is being mercilessly plugged this week on "larry king alive," etc. 2.) The Old york Times can make two stories out of a one paragraph blurb in the Woodward book? 3.)Tom Daschle attacks Rush the same day 4.) daschle mentions-more than once-that he talked with "experts" about Rush and talk radio:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_112102/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html
"Here's the kicker: Daschle said that these experts told him "that even people that don't agree with him listen because they're entertained." For the first time they have stumbled onto the truth! It's not just a bunch of mind-numbed conservative robots listening to my program for marching orders. The left listens to this program, too – and that really boils Daschle's eggs. It illustrates and proves that the impact of talk radio is not limited. It crosses the ideological divide. People are changing their minds on the left, and joining us."
Combine the above with: 5.) today's Boston Globe-ellen goodman article calling Rush's website "political porn," 6.)daschle's embarrassment over his daily ass whippings, 7.) the history of the liberal media working with democrat 'strategerists,' plus, most importantly 8.)TALK RADIO IS POWERFUL ENOUGH TO INFLUENCE ELECTIONS--and I believe you have evidence of an organized effort to smear (and make people feel guilty about) the"conservative media."
Nice try, tommy boy... but it didn't work!!!
Until your post my only knowledge about the status of the nomination of Dennis Shedd was the remark made by Rush. What I do understand is that the vote on Shedd was 55 - 45. That tells me the Democrats are playing a little bit of a game.
I agree with a big chunk of your theory, but I'd hardly agree that Bush has any control over any Democratic Senator. He has pull with the voters and that's all that the likes of Landrau and the other Dem senators care about... i.e. they don't want to end up like Carnahan and get thrown out next time 'round.
In essence your saying it's the old kick the dog syndrome and I think that's partly true.
The thing is... there's no way in the world that their side will think their positions are wrong and need reviewed... and of course we wouldn't either... we certainly didn't back in '92 and '96.
So if they view their positions as correct (i.e. Socialist in nature but presented as 'mainstream' and caring), then all that is left is how it is broadcast. And let's face it, they've already got the big 3 networks and most of cable peddling their propaganda for em.... what's left?
TALK RADIO... of course! And the quicker they can get their base to view talk radio as a threat, then the quicker they can:
A. Somehow demand 'equal time' (ergo diminish the hours and influce that Rush, Laura, Gordon, et. al have)
B. Motivate their own folks to hate conservatives and in their mind, "what better way to motivate their base than use hate and fear?"
In other words... for them it's just another case of stick with what works.
That is the most scary thought a Democrat can have.
I noticed that about 10 years ago. What the left doesn't understand is that Rush and Liddy and co. are not just entertainment.... they're every bit as much news sources as they are anything else. They read stories and bring up issues that Rather, Brokaw, Jennings and Lehrer never would.
Yes they put their spin on it, but if 20 million listeners didn't agree with em, they wouldn't keep on listening.
Not only that... it's may be corny... but Rush is a motivational speaker to boot. Yes, he repeats himself and even on occassion is a little bombastic (rare occassions though), but on the whole he's an inspiring and encouraging guy.
This is one guy that is willing to have the courage to face the truth.
You don't Huh?
A president that has the house and senate and looks like he is going to have it for 6 more years has a ton of clout. Bush now has the power to control federal spending in any state for what looks like 6 LONG years.
I don't think you have a clue about how this game is played. With both houses the Democrats can't do anything that Bush doesn't want done. The democrats can block things but they can't make anything happen. To make stuff happen in their state, stuff their contributors paid good money to get, those Democraic Senators have to make Bush want it to happen.
Those big companies and unions paid a fortune to elect that Democrat to get stuff done for them. Tick bush off and you'll be explaining to the donor why it was more important to please Daschle than get what the donor wanted done. Coming up with the millions to run again gets hard when you can't deliver anything.
How would you figure they can deliver for the people that paid for their election? By obeying Bush or obeying Daschle.
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