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What is the Koran?
atlantic monthly ^ | J A N U A R Y 1 9 9 9 | Toby Lester

Posted on 11/20/2002 3:13:18 PM PST by dennisw

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To: KLT
looks like it's time, once again, to post to inform the masses ... FWIW ... (I'm sure you've already seen it) ...

The Koran on Jews, Christians, Christianity, Christ, the Gospel, The Deity of Christ, the Holy Trinity, the Bible (the Book) and Infidels

http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/

"The Women" [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back,
then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

[3.85] "And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers."

[4.91] You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and
kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given.you a clear authority.

The Dinner Table - [5.51] O you who believe!
do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

The Cattle - [6.146] And to those who were Jews We made unlawful every animal having claws, and of oxen and sheep We made unlawful to them the fat of both, except such as was on their backs or the entrails or what was mixed with bones: this was a punishment We gave them on account of their rebellion, and We are surely Truthful.

The Immunity - Denial of Deity of Christ and His Messiahship - [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away! (MAY ALLAH DESTROY JEWS AND CHRISTIANS)

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away,
then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

The Congregation [62.6] Say: O you who are Jews, if you think that you are the favorites of Allah to the exclusion of other people, then invoke death If you are truthful. (PLEASE COMMIT SUICIDE)

The Cow - [2.111] And they say: None shall enter the garden (or paradise) except he who is a Jew or a Christian. These are their vain desires. Say: Bring your proof if you are truthful.

The Women - [4.171] O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one god; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector. (CLEARLY STATES THAT JESUS IS **NOT** THE SON OF GOD)

The Dinner Table - The Dinner Table [5.14] And with those who say, We are Christians, We made a covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of, therefore We excited among them enmity and hatred to the day of resurrection; and Allah will inform them of what they did.

[5.72] Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Marium; and the Messiah said: O Children of Israel! serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall be no helpers for the unjust.

Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (Q. 2:191), to murder them and treat them harshly (Q. 9:123), slay them (Q. 9: 5), fight with them, (Q. 8: 65 ) even if they are Christians and Jews, humiliate them and impose on them a penalty tax (Q. 9: 29). Quran takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and tell clearly that no other religion except Islam is accepted (Q. 3: 85). It relegates those who disbelieve in Quran to hell (Q. 5: 11), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (Q. 9: 28). It orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (Q. 2: 193).

"Fight those who do not profess the true faith [ISLAM], till they pay the jiziya with the hand of humility." - Koran 9: 29

"....
I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks [CUT OFF THEIR HEADS], and smite all their finger tips of them [CUT OFF THEIR FINGERS]." - Koran 8: 12

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Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate." - Koran 9: 73

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When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads [CUT OFF THEIR HEADS] and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly." - Koran 47: 4

"The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom...." - Koran 5: 33-34

" Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jiziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued." - Koran 9: 29

"....the Christians call 'Christ the Son Of God'. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but intimate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth." - Koran 9: 30

"....the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures." - Koran 98: 1-8

"Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: 'Taste the torment of the Conflagration!'" - Koran 22: 19-22, 23

"And burn ye him in the blazing fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits. This was he that would not believe in allah Most high and would not encourage the feeding of the indignant. So no friend hath he here this day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds. " - Koran 31-37

"They say: Allah has taken a Son (to Himself)! Glory be to Him: He is the Self-sufficient: His is what is in the heavens and what is in the Earth; you have no authority for this; do you say against Allah what you do not know? Say: Those who forge a lie against Allah shall not be successful." - Koran 10:68-69 [SAYS JESUS IS NOT THE SON OF GOD AND WHOEVER SAYS SO IS A LIAR]

81 posted on 11/22/2002 2:04:25 PM PST by Bobby777
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To: dennisw
Islamists worship the god of the moon, not the GOD. Over time they have come say to the western world that our God and theirs are the same God, but no, they worship the god of the moon.
They act like it as well.
82 posted on 11/22/2002 2:05:11 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: Landru; KLT; gregwest
Especially from a newbie who's been here less than two months...
83 posted on 11/22/2002 2:05:46 PM PST by sauropod
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To: sauropod
"Especially from a newbie who's been here less than two months..."

Time-in-grade aside, 'pod; this guy's pretty condescending, anyway.
If I'd seen any measurable number of Muslims stepping forward to loudly, vigorously denounce what happened on 911 *&* before?
I'd give the man his due.

But all I heard was HIS interpretation of that damnedable book & frankly, he's telling us how the Koran "should" be followed according to HIM.
Not, what is happening.

That makes the man full of shit; in, "My Book."

Of course & then comes the last test he failed, miserably.

...the trusty, "Old Timer's Smell-Test." ;^)

84 posted on 11/22/2002 2:20:30 PM PST by Landru
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To: Landru
Truth!

Oh, how intolerant of me. I have to wrap my Quran up in pastels and look at it with rose colored glasses....

HRP

85 posted on 11/22/2002 2:24:18 PM PST by sauropod
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To: KLT
"Uh oh, been a hard day on FR aye...gettin into a couple of tussles are ya?"

"Hellinahandcart" gettin' into *tussles*??
Welllll I should hope so.

Have to change all sorts of things if she weren't cranky, y'know.

..."Heaveninahandbasket" just doesn't work quite the *same*. :o)

86 posted on 11/22/2002 2:27:41 PM PST by Landru
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To: Bobby777
Not to spoil anybody's Superior Dance party, but there are loonies on both sides. Granted, those of the non-Islamic persuasion haven't acted out nearly to the degree that the Islamic nutjobs have, but I never say never.

Perhaps we could introduce the zany characters at this site full of certifiable, full canvas jacket candidates to some of those folks on your earlier list?

87 posted on 11/22/2002 3:14:45 PM PST by Pahuanui
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To: gregwest
re your post #63:


First, Greg, let's be tolerant enough here to examine the attacks on America on September 11, 2001. Click on the KNOW YOUR ENEMY graphic.


Next, Greg, let's continue our pattern of tolerance and patience and click on THE AMERICAN FLAG for today's news links of interest.


Finally Greg, read THE BIBLE VERSE printed on the graphic. It may be a great eye-opener for those who don't understand why America is so different from most countries.


May God bless you Greg.

88 posted on 11/22/2002 4:02:32 PM PST by Cindy
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To: dennisw
Allah's little instruction book on how to end up on conservative America's s**t list.
89 posted on 11/22/2002 4:53:21 PM PST by roamincadillac
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To: secretagent
The Quaran should be printed on a roll of toilet paper. I would buy it.
P.S. When Mecca is glass, which way will all the prayer rug throwing towel heads align their rugs?
90 posted on 11/22/2002 5:06:57 PM PST by jslade
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To: stand watie
Thank you, thank you, thank you...SW....some people have no manners unlike Southern gentlemen...

You comin up for 12-28?

91 posted on 11/22/2002 5:09:57 PM PST by KLT
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To: sauropod
I feel my bowels move... under my feet....

Hey POD, isn't that a song by Carole King...."I FEEL (MY BOWELS) THE EARTH MOVE UNDER MY FEET". Interesting...gonna have to send your lyrics to lib Burt Bacharach...LOL

92 posted on 11/22/2002 5:13:58 PM PST by KLT
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To: Cindy
Thank you Cindy....it's nice to have learned and well informed people on this thread...

Freegards,

Karen AKA KLT

93 posted on 11/22/2002 5:15:22 PM PST by KLT
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To: Bobby777
Bobby, thank you very much....I appreciate your advocacy, and it's time people put away their PC feelings and saw the forest from the trees....

What many good Christians don't understand, is that if God Forbid, your town, city, state, province or country was taken over by Muslim Fundamentalists and you resist , they have their children who have been trained and prepared since childhood, blow themselves up and take innocent lives with them... and if you don't convert, they slaughter you...

This is fact...no allegations here...

With Best Freegards From The Socialist Republic Of NY,

Karen AKA KLT

94 posted on 11/22/2002 5:29:47 PM PST by KLT
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To: Landru
So how was your knap?

Yes Landru, we've all gotten into trussles now and then, but we are all soooooo passionate about our beliefs....it's bound to happen..

My Best Regards To Mrs. Landru,...

Your Grateful Pal,

Karen AKA KLT

95 posted on 11/22/2002 5:34:20 PM PST by KLT
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To: Landru; KLT; sauropod
Thought you could get away with talking behind my back?

"Hellinahandcart" gettin' into *tussles*??

Landru, you have NO idea, LOL.

..."Heaveninahandbasket" just doesn't work quite the *same*.

Well, that's (cough!) not for me to say...

;-x

96 posted on 11/22/2002 5:46:53 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: KLT
Mighty perceptive of you.....
97 posted on 11/22/2002 6:02:27 PM PST by sauropod
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To: dennisw
Low Grade Toilet Paper!
98 posted on 11/22/2002 6:04:43 PM PST by wharfrat
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To: KLT
I just hope people copy it and send it to their family and friends ... time to wake up America and the rest of the world which has slept through this cancerous growth ...
99 posted on 11/22/2002 6:12:06 PM PST by Bobby777
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To: dennisw
Islam is 1% religion, 99% social control.
g.
100 posted on 11/22/2002 8:09:38 PM PST by greasepaint
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