Homeland Security Vote Coming Up on CSPAN

CSPAN | 11/19/02 | freedom1st

[freedom1st]

Sen. Phil Gramm debating Homeland Security Bill right now.

[Wait4Truth]

Ahem....the President was at 68% in the last Gallup poll, I believe. Either way, we won. Yay!

[Quilla]

This one post explains it in a nutshell - the whole thread is an excellent debate if you have the time:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/791515/posts?page=21#21

[rintense]

No way! The Northeast RINO club all voted no???? WOW. They want committee leadership roles.

[mwl1]

Okay, enlighten me....I thought this was a bad bill because of all the pork spending added at the last minute, that had absolutely nothing to do with security.....so, I thought this would be something not good to pass.....

Typical spin from the media and the DNC. The "special interest provisions" they complain about were not pork but rather provisions to limit the trial lawyers in this country in cases of terrorism. This is a great win for manufacturers and a huge loss for the trial lawyer lobby.

[GraniteStateConservative]

It's not pork. It waives some liability if last minute vaccinations cause side effects. It's a Good Samaratin law for pharmaceutical companies. It's a good idea for the same reasons a Good Samaratin law is good.

[Redleg Duke]

I think the RATS are facing a different electorate than they had in the Slick Years. A sadder, wiser and more discriminating electorate that follows the dots.

[Wait4Truth]

Now, KKK Byrd is going to speak! UGH!

[Wphile]

I thought this was a bad bill because of all the pork spending added at the last minute, that had absolutely nothing to do with security.....

Well, there were last minute add-ons, some having to do with national security (although rather loosely) and some not necessarily so. Some of it sounds like it is just PORK but I don't know all the details. Anyway, looks like Daschle's amendment is dead in the water and now they will have to vote on the actual bill, with the add-ons.

I thought the tactics were a bit shady by the House GOP but then that is how the game is played in DC, unfortunately.

[Dog]

Daschle is finished!!!!!!!!

We got us a President who just played hardball with those RINO'S!!!

Byrd whining again!!

[nicmarlo]

I don't have time right now....but I will definitely look at it tonight....I was trying to figure this whole thing out yesterday, but become more confused as I read what I could find.....thanks for the link.

[Wphile]

The final vote was 52-47?

Who didn't vote? Just curious.

[abnegation]

I'm glad that I am NOT the only one who dislikes looking, listening to or tolerating Byrd.

[GraniteStateConservative]

Next will be Judge Shedd!

[A2J]

I thought the tactics were a bit shady by the House GOP but then that is how the game is played in DC, unfortunately.

I don't know about that. The House Republicans are the only ones who seem to cherish more of an independence from the president, a check-balance system of their own.

[Wait4Truth]

Kennedy was not in town, for one.

[Redleg Duke]

When is West (By God!) Virginia gonna wise up and dump that fat-assed porkbarrel?

[Wphile]

Judge Shedd? Oh man, I'm not going to get anything done this morning!

[Wait4Truth]

Bryd turns my stomach! Glad you agree! Phil Gramm says it time for a final vote!

[meyer]

When is West (By God!) Virginia gonna wise up and dump that fat-assed porkbarrel?

when he quits bringing home the bacon.

[Txslady]

at age 85 he (Byrd)needs more then an hearing aid.

Way to go Gramm!!!! :o) I'll miss you in the Senate!