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No Longer An Accident - Downing of TWA Flight 800
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | November 19, 2002 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 11/19/2002 4:41:39 AM PST by canalabamian

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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I don't think we will ever see the Clinton regime at the stake in our lifetime. But one can always hope.

The only hope might come during a second Bush II administration. After the sacking of Louie Freeh of course.

221 posted on 11/19/2002 5:48:30 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Asmodeus
I've seen that before. Interesting, but coming from there, I am not sold on it, as it still leaves questions (of mine) unanswered. BTW, who funded the research Caltech did?
222 posted on 11/19/2002 5:50:37 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
"Reed Irvine, I think, believed the US Navy accident theory."

Click here for Reed Irvine's monumental bellyflop on that subject.

224 posted on 11/19/2002 6:00:01 PM PST by Asmodeus
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To: Mixer
LOL. For a minute there you had ME confused. :-)
225 posted on 11/19/2002 6:03:09 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: canalabamian
I remember in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 George Stefaggotpolis was talking about previous acts of terrorism and started listing them... The first World Trade Center Bombing, OK City, Khobar Towers, Flight 800, the USS Cole....

Hmmmm. A little slip there, eh Stefi?
226 posted on 11/19/2002 6:05:02 PM PST by Antoninus
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To: Matchett-PI
No. Terrorists, illegal aliens, Mafia, Union (and other Goons) --- all troublemakers, leeches and parasites ---- would have registered as DemocRATS

FYI, in some states, such as Texas, one doesn't register as a member of a political party. One merely registers to vote, which is as it should be. When you vote in a primary, your registration certificut is stamped so that you don't go and vote in the primary of another party, but that information isn't recorded anywhere else AFAIK.

228 posted on 11/19/2002 6:25:02 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Alberta's Child
LOL. For a minute there you had ME confused. :-)



Sorry
229 posted on 11/19/2002 6:39:38 PM PST by Mixer
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To: staytrue
The article fails to mention that after twa 800, the faa found faulty wiring as a cause of explosion in the center fuel tank and further that all wiring in all Boeing 747's be replaced and with new wiring modified to prevent such explosions...And the fact that Boeing did not dispute the conclusion is not worthless either.

That would be the NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board, not the FAA, althoug the FAA would be the one to order the wiring and other aircraft modifications. NTSB also found fault with the FAA which approved the original design.

IIRC, Boeing DID dispute the conclusion, and they may still be disputing it in court for all I know.

230 posted on 11/19/2002 6:52:19 PM PST by El Gato
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To: canalabamian
Congrats on your first post, looks like a good turn out.
231 posted on 11/19/2002 6:55:48 PM PST by KineticKitty
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To: Landru
Facinating, if true. Accidents happen, as the Iranians know all too well. This theory sure absolves the ragheads (I'd suspected) of any invlovement, doesn't it. But what's more important?

...it'd more than explain Clintigula's motive for a cover-up.

Actually it would have given the bent one a big stick to beat the military with. We all know about the "high esteem" (read loathing) the Clintons hold the military. He could have used this to further cut budgets, dismiss many of the brass who refused to toe the Clintonian line, and so forth. He certainly wouldn't risk any political capital in a coverup to protect the military.

232 posted on 11/19/2002 7:01:21 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Alberta's Child
That's a very good point you raised. Ask yourself this question: If only one aircraft had crashed into the World Trade Center on 9/11, do you think the story line that was put together afterward would have been the same?

No. It would have been rather hard to "put together" a four-plane "storyline" and kill all those extra people.

(And no, "pilot error" would not have sufficed even for a single plane 9/11. Manhattan was generally restricted airspace anyway, the flight was already proven hijacked, etc etc.)

233 posted on 11/19/2002 7:16:13 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Alberta's Child
RAM-116"

That would be RIM-116 which is indeed a RAM, Rolling Airframe Missle. It uses a Stinger type seeker and Sidewinder type motor and warhead. The Stinger type seeker is still a heat seeker in the terminal phase, but is a passive RF seeker during the flyout, both modes requiring no guidance from the launcher. The -B model can use IR all the way, if the target is not emitting. However the newer, even in the early 90s, Stinger type seekers could home on skin heat, they did not necessarily go for the engines. It was indeed a joint US German developement, but the Contractor was General Dynamics. However GD missles was bought by Hughes which in turn was bought by or technically merged with, Raytheon, (BTW, AKA RAT-Co, HQ'd in Taxachussetts)

234 posted on 11/19/2002 7:19:10 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
...at some point after TWA800 Clinton issued an executive order...

Executive Order 13039 specifically provides for "Exclusion of the Naval Special Warfare Development Group From the Federal Labor-Management Relations Program", a whistle-blower deal just as you mentioned. The Naval Special Warfare Development Group was part of the TWA800 recovery team. Bubba issued it on March 11, 1997. That was the same week that Salinger went public, the FBI seized a FAA radar tape from Richard Russell, and the FBI wanted James Sanders for "questioning". Just a series of isolated incidents, nothing to look at here people, just move along...(and pay no attention to that man behind the curtain...)

235 posted on 11/19/2002 7:28:04 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: El Gato
He could have used this to further cut budgets, dismiss many of the brass who refused to toe the Clintonian line, and so forth.

Don't forget the big picture: he was facing an ELECTION in four months. His re-election for a second term.

236 posted on 11/19/2002 7:34:50 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: YoungKentuckyConservative
this was not terrorism. Either the U.S. or some other military force shot the plane down. I'm not willing to debate this, being that I conversed with the Boeing Engineer responsible for submitting a report based on fact finding

How would he know it wasn't terrorists? All he would know would be the mechanism, not the perpetrators. It's amazing what sorts of stuff terrorists who have their own country can come up with in the way of hardware, and that could have been Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, even Libya or North Korea.

237 posted on 11/19/2002 7:38:02 PM PST by El Gato
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To: thatdewd
Don't forget the big picture: he was facing an ELECTION in four months. His re-election for a second term.

I was thinking of later, after he was re-elected and then could, as was his wont after election, turn hard left. Come to think of it, it's a typical Demo wont, whether they win or lose.

238 posted on 11/19/2002 7:41:09 PM PST by El Gato
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To: El Gato
"The article fails to mention that after twa 800, the faa found faulty wiring as a cause of explosion in the center fuel tank and further that all wiring in all Boeing 747's be replaced and with new wiring modified to prevent such explosions...And the fact that Boeing did not dispute the conclusion is not worthless either."

That would be the NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board, not the FAA...

To further compound the poster's errors that you pointed out is the slightly difficult fact that it didn't happen.

No order to replace "all wiring" in "all Boeing 747s" has been issued. No 747s have been grounded, no "frayed wiring" was found, no Technical orders have been released to correct this "problem", and the one technical order suggested (to fill empty tanks with inert nitrogen) was deemed not economically justified in light of the miniscule risk.

239 posted on 11/19/2002 7:43:30 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: Illbay
More drivel from the tin-foil hat brigade.

That's right, Illbay, cuz you KNOW that Clinton and the FBI can be TRUSTED IMPLICITLY on this one. (The rest of us are just so damn stupid for NOT believing their story!)

Sssssssuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrre!

240 posted on 11/19/2002 8:45:53 PM PST by BenR2
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