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No Longer An Accident - Downing of TWA Flight 800
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | November 19, 2002 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 11/19/2002 4:41:39 AM PST by canalabamian

No longer an accident!

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The jury is in on TWA Flight 800, and the verdict is clear: There is absolutely no evidence of either a mechanical failure, or of a bomb planted in the fuselage. Indeed, all available evidence suggests the explosive event that destroyed the ill-fated airliner in 1996 was caused by a terrorist group called the Islamic Change Movement.

This is the "group" that had taken responsibility for the Riyadh bombing in 1995 that killed five Americans and two Indian nationals, and the Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia on June 25, 1996, that killed 19 American servicemen.

Early on July 17, 1996, the very day TWA Flight 800 was destroyed, this same group issued a communique that, according to Yossef Bodansky, "laid the foundation for the downing of TWA 800." As director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, Bodansky knows the subject as well as any man alive.

The communique was chilling: "The mujahideen will deliver the ultimate response to the threats of the foolish American president. Everyone will be amazed at the size of that response," it read in part. "Their time is at the morning-dawn. Is not the morning-dawn near?" Dawn in Afghanistan corresponded almost exactly to dusk in New York, the moment of TWA Flight 800's demise.

So powerful and public was the warning that, by the night of July 18, the State Department had already swung into denial mode. "While it's up to those leading the investigation to make a judgment on what this means," said spokesman Glyn Davies unconvincingly, "we think that this is a common type of political tract circulated commonly in the Middle East, and that the only connection is a vague chronological one – that this thing surfaced at this dreadful time."

The State department failed to note that on this same day, July 18, the Islamic Change Movement released another communique through well-established Islamist terrorist channels in Beirut. It read in part, "We carried out our promise with the plane attack of yesterday."

Bodansky was not impressed by the State Department denials. He raised the chillingly prophetic alarm that follows – not after Sept. 11, but two years before:

The case of TWA 800 served as a turning point because of Washington's determination – and to a great extent ability – to suppress terrorist explanations and "float" mechanical failure theories. To avoid such suppression after future strikes, terrorism-sponsoring states would raise the ante so that the West cannot ignore them.

Less well understood is just which "terrorism-sponsoring state" was backing the Islamic Change Movement. In her fascinating book, "The War Against America," Laurie Mylroie makes the case that the one nation with the means and the motivation was Iraq. "The most likely interpretation," she notes, "is that the Islamic Change Movement was a name given by Iraqi intelligence to threaten or claim credit for bombings."

To be sure, Mylroie does not link the Islamic Change Movement to TWA Flight 800. In fact, she does not mention the doomed flight at all. She focuses primarily on the first World Trade Center bombing. A meticulous researcher, Mylroie developed much of her material as a consultant for Newsweek. She has sifted through the various documents unearthed in the various criminal trials, and followed the paper trail right back to Iraq. Her reasoning and her documentation are difficult to refute.

Curious as to why she avoided the subject of TWA Flight 800, I called Ms. Mylroie. As I told her, I did not expect her to commit to a theory on the crash based on my five-minute phone explanation, but I would appreciate her insight on a few key points. One was on the question of whether it was indeed the Islamic Change Movement that had sent a specific threat the morning of the flight. "No," she answered cagily, "They actually sent it the night before."

A second point of interest was the date of the plane's destruction. Mylroie mentions frequently, as have others, that terrorists in the Islamic world have a fixation with dates. She argues, for instance, that the first World Trade Center bombing took place on the second anniversary of the final day of the Gulf War, a correlation she sees as significant. (She does not explore the Oklahoma City bombing, despite the fact that its modus operandi is eerily similar to the bombing of the World Trade Center and that it took place on the second anniversary of the final day of another siege – the one on Waco).

The most significant day on the Iraqi revolutionary calendar marks the coup that brought Hussein's Ba'th party to power in the ill-starred year of 1969. Mylroie makes several references to this date – July 17 – but, curiously, she makes no reference to the most violent terrorist event that tracks with that date, namely the destruction of TWA Flight 800. Again, Mylroie was aware of the connection, but chose not to pursue it.

A third point of interest is the man responsible for the first World Trade Center bombing, Ramzi Yousef. Mylroie makes a compelling case that Yousef was an Iraqi agent. Indeed, the Arabs with whom he conspired in the New York area knew him as "Rashid, the Iraqi."

On July 17, 1996, Yousef was standing trial in New York for his role in a plot known as "Bojinka," the Serbian word for explosive. Yousef had been planning to blow up 11 American airliners over the Pacific more or less simultaneously. The scary thing is that he was capable of doing it.

One element of Bojinka planning mirrored Yousef's most successful crime: the truck bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993. If one could stuff a thousand pounds of explosives into a van, reasoned Yousef (on the laptop seized from the Manila apartment he shared with Abdul Hakim Murad, a Pakistani pilot), why not stuff a comparable amount in a small plane and strike real terror into the belly of the beast? The one speculative target cited was the CIA building. But more important was the methodology. The following excerpt from a classified Republic of the Philippines intelligence report shows that al-Qaida had plans to use small planes as flying bombs as early as 1994.

The document [from Yousef's computer] specifically cited the charter service of a commercial-type aircraft loaded with powerful bombs to be dive-crashed by Saeed Akman. This is apparently intended to demonstrate to the whole world that a Muslim martyr is ready and determined to die for the glorification of Islam.

Sept. 11 mastermind, Mohammed Atta, also made plans to use small, private planes to launch an attack of some kind within America. During the spring of 2000, in a stunning bit of chutzpah, Atta visited a U.S. Department of Agriculture office in Homestead, Fla., and attempted to apply for a government financed loan. USDA manager Johnelle Bryant described his unlikely (and happily unsuccessful) request for ABC News:

He … actually wanted to purchase a six-passenger, twin-engine airplane, that he could pull the back seats out, and build a special-made chemical tank to put … into … the aircraft to hold the chemicals for crop-dusting, and yet remove that when he … needed to, and replace the seats for … [a] charter-type plane.

Although Atta had no known connection to the destruction of TWA Flight 800, and his avowed interest was in "crop-dusting," his plans to reconfigure the plane seem to have come right out of the Yousef playbook. I cite these references to small planes because there was undeniably one in the mix on July 17, 1996 – one described by the most credible eyewitness as a "six-seater."

A fourth point of interest is the behavior of President Bill Clinton. Although she served as an adviser to Clinton during his 1992 campaign, Mylroie finds his reaction to Iraqi-backed terrorism "inexplicable." In fact, throughout the book, Mylroie quietly condemns the seeming "policy disarray" that leads time and again to inaction. The administration, she notes, suffered from the inability to tell the truth about Iraq even to itself.

In an insightful National Review article, Byron York argues that in the desperately political year of 1996, Clinton adviser Dick Morris polled continuously, even on tragic events like Khobar Towers and TWA Flight 800, to see how the president should respond. The conclusion was that "talking tough" would suffice. The implication is that tough talk would allow Clinton to hold his lead over the Republican's aging warrior, Bob Dole, without engendering further risk. Says York, "Clinton was preoccupied with his own political fortunes to an extent that precluded his giving serious and sustained attention to fighting terrorism."

For the Clinton White House, there was no political upside to terrorism unless it could be blamed on the American right wing. And if there were no political upside, why pursue it at all – why not just wish it away? Such was America's foreign policy for eight years, and never more intensely so than in the anxious run-up to Clinton's 1996 re-election bid.

If Mylroie ignores TWA Flight 800 altogether, York addresses it parenthetically: "It was later ruled to be an accident," he notes. One cannot blame either for avoiding the topic. When they were writing, there was no substantial body of evidence refuting the government's specious but complex argument for mechanical failure. That is about to change. And when it does, the brief for an attack on Iraq could only grow stronger.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aegisradar; blackhelicopters; coverup; faa; flight800; flighttwa800; iraq; longisland; paris; rathionbomb; terrorism; tinfoil; twa800list; usnavy
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
The radar records showing that Naval assets in the area sped AWAY from the TWA crash site initially.

Bingo. The famous "dog that didn't bark" scenario, in which U.S. Navy vessels that would have responded to a missile launch from an unknown source by searching for that source decided instead to flee the scene as quickly as possible.

Also, someone pointed out that there was no change in flight patterns for other aircraft flying over the wreckage site immediately after the crash. If there was any suspicion that TWA 800 had been brought down by a missile of unknown origin, then all flights would have been either diverted or grounded -- there would have been an implicit assumption that whoever fired the missile was capable of firing another one.

If TWA Flight 800 was brought down by a missile, it was the U.S. Navy that fired it.

121 posted on 11/19/2002 7:42:40 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: sultan88
In case you missed this, a FYI.

I never doubted this was a raghead stunt, sultan.
Only question I've ever really had was why Clintigula felt a coverup was necessary??
What'd the pig have to gain insoding??

...any thoughts?

122 posted on 11/19/2002 7:43:30 AM PST by Landru
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To: eno_
good point. But it also gets you good jobs if you are a clintonite friend....just ask Kallstrom and all the CLinton FOB's. And since a good job is the "God" of so many - that explains a lot about the despicable complicity of so many during the Clinton crime years - and continuing today.
123 posted on 11/19/2002 7:46:50 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: eno_
I should mention - it being a Clinton FOB guy (friend of Bubbillary) - also means one day you are expendable. EVERY current and former FOB knows this truth.....which is another reason so few of them EVER speak up about what they know. And, of course, the fact that they sold our their country either in fear of the Clinton hit machine or in lust for the "jobs" and "money" the Clintons find for their "friends".

By the way - this Clinton Thuggery is continuing today. Every incoming Democratic "freshman" in our Congress is going to be briefed by Mz. Hitlery herself: YOU EITHER TOW OUR LINE, DO AS WE ORDER, OR YOU ARE DESTROYED (YOUR POLITICAL CAREER IS OVER). It is that simple.

124 posted on 11/19/2002 7:52:32 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: canalabamian
You have done really well with this post. I saw a similar story in my email this morning.

Makes perfect sense to me -- planes just do not blow up like that IMO, but then I am far from being any expert. Just know if there was a real problem with the fuel tanks, the fleet of those type planes would have been grounded around the world like they do in the Air Force when there is a catastrophic crash from something that could be found in like aircraft. Too dangerous if this problem was left to go unchecked in other aircraft and you ground until other aircraft can be checked!

If that is wearing a tinfoil hat -- so be it!
125 posted on 11/19/2002 7:54:36 AM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: Landru
See #121. A terrorist act is highly unlikely in this case, primarily because anyone who wanted to shoot down an airliner flying out of JFK Airport would not have done so from a point so far east. TWA 800 was flying beyond the range of any known shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missile at that point.
126 posted on 11/19/2002 7:59:12 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: norton
No longer able to maintain the tin-foil hat image assigned to us doubters.

That is because a fuel tank explosion was proven impossible, even by the experts trying to replicate it. The best they could come up with was a flame-front that took several seconds to propagate through a 1/4 scale model. This required tweaking the heat just so, and igniting the fuel vapors with a hot wire, and neither the fuel vapor denisity nor the ignition source were ever shown to exist in a real fuel tank. Nor did the resulting fuel fire cause the scale model to come apart, although it was claimed that enough combustion gasses could be produced quickly enough that the tank (which is vented) would not release the pressure quickly enough to prevent some structural failure. In theory.

That, and the ridiculous CIA animation that is loony on a par with meteorite and death-ray theories.

Terrorists, on the other hand, are very real. So are SAMs in the hands of Iraq, the Taliban in Afganistan, Iran, Hezbolla, etc. It need not even have been one of our man-portable Stingers if, as it seems likely, the missile was fired from a boat. Missiles, bombs, and suicidal hijackers have all brought down several airliners, killing thousands of innocents. TWA800 could be something else. But the likelihood of that is very very very low.

128 posted on 11/19/2002 8:05:22 AM PST by eno_
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To: canalabamian
I absolutely believe that there is no credible evidence for mechanical failure or any of the other theories the Feds floated (bomb, meteorite, lightning), and I absolutely do believe a missile brought down the plane, and I do suspect it could have been Islamic terrorists, but this article is weak on substance. Misleading headlines to articles like this don't do much for the cause of getting to the truth about TWA 800.

Oddly enough, I expect some people here who have pooh-poohed the missle theory (the government wouldn't LIE to us, would they?), to jump on board now, if there is an Iraqi connection, if it will serve the cause to start a fun war.

P.S. If the missile was delivered by Islamic terrorists, Clinton was politically stupid to cover it up! But maybe he had his reasons. "MOHAMMAD FERRAT"

129 posted on 11/19/2002 8:07:47 AM PST by agrandis
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt; Alberta's Child
From what I understand, the aircraft's elevation was at the far end of a Stinger missiles's range. The probability of a hit would be greatly reduced, but not eliminated.

There are other Russian Stinger clones that would have had a high kill probability though.

130 posted on 11/19/2002 8:08:34 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: Alberta's Child
The one problem with that theory is that a Stinger anti-aircraft missile does not have the range to strike a target as high as TWA 800 was flying.

That's not the only problem with the Stinger theory. There are a couple of others:

1. The Stinger is a heat-seeking missile and, as such, would have homed in on the exhaust port of one of the engines. The missile that brought down FL800 exploded in front of the left wing. A heat-seeking missile would have approached from behind, exploding in or near one of the engines. This missile must have been radar-guided and proximity-fuzed. Not a Stinger.

2. The two-pound warhead on a Stinger is far too small to account for the damage that was done to the plane. The missile blast tore off the left wing and the nose. A two-pound warhead couldn't do that, but a full-size surface-to-air missile certainly could.

131 posted on 11/19/2002 8:13:32 AM PST by Steve0113
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To: canalabamian
TWA Flight 800 has terrorist act written all over it. The facts have been so obfuscated that nobody will probably ever know the truth. It sure smells fishy though and I for one remain skeptical.
132 posted on 11/19/2002 8:15:45 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: spycatcher
From what I understand, the aircraft's elevation was at the far end of a Stinger missiles's range. The probability of a hit would be greatly reduced, but not eliminated.

The aircraft was only at the far end of a Stinger's range because it had been ordered to reduce its elevation by several thousand feet to make way for a northbound US Air flight landing in Providence, Rhode Island that was running behind schedule. I can't see why anyone intending to shoot down an airliner would have waited out there for the odd chance that one would be flying overhead at a lower-than-normal altitude. If you're going to go through all the trouble of getting a missile on a boat and anchoring offshore, you would do it much closer to JFK Airport than the Hamptons.

133 posted on 11/19/2002 8:15:56 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
TWA 800 was flying beyond the range of any known shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missile at that point.

If it was a missile, it need not have been a shoulder-fired missile. It was probably fired from a boat. Plus, the most compelling physical evidence I have heard of that it was a missile is the description of ceramic balls recovered from victims' bodies. I think these are part of a missile warhead. My very speculative theory is that it was an expanding rod warhead (which AFAIK are not found in MANPADs).

134 posted on 11/19/2002 8:17:17 AM PST by eno_
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To: Alberta's Child
Considering the following:

"1. The numerous witnesses from multiple points on the south shore of Long Island who saw something fired upward toward the aircraft."

Eye-witnesses are often proved inaccurate sources of testimony, not because they are purposefully deceitful, but they often mix fact with hear-say and "remember" more than actually occurred.

"2. The fact that the CIA and FBI were involved in the investigation from the start -- the CIA doesn't investigate "normal" airline crashes."

From the outset, the claim of a missile attack or a bomb on the international flight triggered the involvement of those agencies specifically equipped to investigate such. Nothing extrordinarily unusual to do under the circumstances, until such claims are abated by facts brought out by forensic evidence.

"3. Wolf Blitzer's announcement on CNN that evening that Bill Clinton was going to address the nation about the crash of TWA 800 -- an address that was never made. A "normal" airline crash is not something that prompts a nationwide address by the president -- even a dysfunctional president with a pathological craving for media attention."

When such reports of a terrorists strike were rampant, it made sense that the President, no matter how dispicable the excuse of a man, would seek to calm the fears of the general public - unless the evidence changes the focus to catastrophic failure of the AC.

"4. Have you ever seen so much attention and money provided to the families of an airline disaster as you saw in New York that night?"

Tort settlements are increasingly huge. That's one reason why the cost of a general aviation aircraft is so unreasonably expensive, many times four to five times the cost of a comparable road vehicle.

"5. The number of airlines that have crashed in the last ten years under mysterious/unusual circumstances -- TWA 800, the SwissAir flight off the coast of Nova Scotia, that Egypt Air flight where the pilot or co-pilot allegedly crashed the plane, Flight 587 that crashed into the neighborhood in Queens, NY last year. Notice that these were all international flights, and that they all originated -- you guessed it -- from JFK Airport in New York City. I'd rather play in traffic than fly out of that freakin' place."

The number of airline TO's & TD's in NYC is astounding, and with the high level of traffic comes the fact that more high-cycle, high-time airframes converge in one area. These AC are on "quick" turn-around schedules creating stress on personnel and equipment which could lead to neglect and error, thus exposing the flying public to dangerous oversights which could lead to crashes or other serious reportable incidents.

Whatever the cause, we must remain vigilant to look at all the evidence of each crash and reason appropriately to help avoid similar incidents in the future.

Regards,
Az

135 posted on 11/19/2002 8:19:51 AM PST by azhenfud
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To: Steve0113
I've reached the following conclusion, based on some VERY interesting information I've received from some folks here on FR who apparently have some serious knowledge of the U.S. Navy.

IF (and that's a big IF) Flight 800 was brought down by a missile, it was shot down by a U.S. Navy missile that had accidentally tracked the aircraft instead of the drone that it was supposed to hit. The missile was not a heat-seeking missile or even a standard "proximity-fused" missile, but one with an explosive warhead that would have exploded near the aircraft and shredded the plane with tungsten carbide shrapnel.

136 posted on 11/19/2002 8:22:49 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: agrandis
If the missile was delivered by Islamic terrorists, Clinton was politically stupid to cover it up!

Not at all. This happened four months before the 1996 elections, and the bent one didn't want it to be known that terrorists were killing Americans on his watch. It would've been a formidable campaign issue, and he knew it.

137 posted on 11/19/2002 8:23:50 AM PST by Steve0113
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To: azhenfud
Eye-witnesses are often proved inaccurate sources of testimony, not because they are purposefully deceitful, but they often mix fact with hear-say and "remember" more than actually occurred.

Hundreds of eye witnessess to the missile were so outraged over the FBI and CIA lies they created the TWA800 Eyewitness Alliance of NY.

138 posted on 11/19/2002 8:24:53 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: eno_
See #121. I have no problem believing that TWA 800 was shot down -- I'm just certain that it wasn't brought down by terrorists.
139 posted on 11/19/2002 8:25:13 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: taxed2death
Your right, everyone know that passenger liners climb 3000 feet after exploding into two pieces :)

Yeah, that and jet fuel, aka kerosene, vapors will burn explosively at 12,000' MSL........without being compressed! You don't need no stinkin' O2! All you gots to do is put some wires close by.

Ever tried to light a match at 12,000'?

140 posted on 11/19/2002 8:31:43 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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