[Angelus Errare]

Just thought I'd post this for discussion purposes.

Let the anti-Islamic remarks begin.

[LiteKeeper]

read later

[I still care]

bump for later reading.

[ConservativeMan55]

Islam breeds terrorism obviously.
Trying to distort it as anything but warmogering monsters would be deceitful.
Seeing as how there has been a constant "Jihad" or war going on against someone or something every second of every day since 1694 kind of makes me think thats all the religion is about...is...war.

[Dialup Llama]

>Let the anti-Islamic remarks begin.

Nice try trying to co-opt the thread. Just one question, if this is mainstream islam rather than Solmon Rushdie islam, what is this guy doing writing in Jewish newspaper in Australia? I mean if there is even a 3% chance this guy is within 10 miles of the islamic mainstream should not he be teaching in Pakistan or publishing in the Arab News?

The very circumstances of the publication is a clue that islam is NOT what he says it is- a religion of peace hijacked by a few extremists.

[harbingr]

According to the following Link, Islam and the Koran are unredeemably anti-Christian... many quotes from the Koran are presented...

False Religion of Islam

excerpt:

"There is no possible compromise between biblical Christianity and Islam, and none should be sought"

[SkyPilot]

Evil Islam and the False Prophet Muhammad"

[secretagent]

FYI

[ellery]

The first half of this article was amazing -- bump for morning reading.

[truth_seeker]

Based on recent trends in islam, it is reasonable (even probable) that some major mullah will edict a fatwa, calling for this guy to be murdered.

The professor in Iran, sentenced to death by whatever body does such things in that far away fair land, was merely calling for islam to adjust to the modern world.

All is clearly NOT well, in islam. Bush is employing optiminstic wishful thinking, to often state otherwise.

World domination, by the sword, is the goal of a significantly large number (even if a relatively small percent) of muslims.

Since it is difficult to know the truth about any individual, it is justifiable self defense, to be deeply fearful of each and every one of them. Better be safe, than sorry.

With a geographic jumping off point in Iraq (together with the lesser emirates around the gulf) we will later be dealing more directly with Saudi Arabia.

I found a book about de-nazification, by American forces in Germany, following WWII. What the world needs, is de-islamization.

Any country which permits religious leaders to speak inciteful words, under cover of "religion" must be properly classed as unacceptable.

An islamist "spectacular" strike against Europe, will/would have the benefit of bringing home reality, to some of our weak allies. Putin "gets" it. Australia "gets" it.

[logic101.net]

Ok, it's 3:30 am. This needs more attention than I am capable of giving it at the moment. Thanks for posting it though, and I will have a response to it soon.

MARK A SITY
http://www.logic101.net/

[Nogbad]

Bump

[harbingr]

"Considered by many to be Chesterton's greatest masterpiece of all his writings, this is his whole view of world history as informed by the Incarnation. Beginning with the origin of man and the various religious attitudes throughout history, Chesterton shows how the fulfillment of all of mans desires takes place in the person of Christ and in Christ's Church..." -excerpt from review of Chesterton's ...

Everlasting Man

[Cacique]

No way I'm reading this at 5 AM. Bookmark it for later.

[Robert A Cook PE]

What are the author's creditionals?

And, if they are legitimate, and his arguments at least are among the few rational ones I've ever read - why should we believe (or rank above all others) his single position against that of hundreds of others who only spew propaganda?

[lavaroise]

I agree on some points with the author but disagrees strongly on others.

1. This self-gratifying/soliciting/praising stereotype religion of peace is ideological, and it is not refering to G_d. Even if true it would definitely support the social secular angle of relationship between people and not between the person and G_d. Peace with whom? With G_d or with deified terrorists?? Who is the target of proselytism here? Terrorists against whom we speak or the victims themselves? Love would be of course a much more apt precept, but I guess they wont disrob their 60s friends so far that they are going to claim peace and love - the two cannot coexist necessarily anyways but Islamists have taken the preponderent half of the 60s mantra.

2. Islam at the origin despises the poor and the peasant. Nowadays it has become Marxist and requests support from the Marxist defined proletarian classes.

But

3. Islamism is an illness of Islam bread within Islam, and certainly not in churches nor in secular institutions. There the author errs completely.

4. Islam may also be radical against Jews, but less so against other Islamic groups or even secuarlist "Christians", believe it or not. So radical Islam does exists in various forms that we may not believe are radical. When looking at all the Islams, all bear a radicality of some sort against one group or the other, their divergence being just that.

4. The Islam and today's Islams never submited to G_d, but rather took on to replace G_d with their own particular self promotion of knowing what G_d meant. It never was a religion based on G_d, but a cult much parallel to secular cults that promote their own definition of G_d, as a channeling invention of man. Yes, both Islam and atheists are equal to, if not, above G_d, and whatever their knowledge of G_d, they have G_d as a man invented concepts of G_d, despite contrary claims of the Islams. Moreover both groups reserve the right to use the group to proselytise, instead of letting people have the right to be silent and to be unproselytised, something only possible in G_d fearing groups, compartmentalised and sanctuarised when confederated under G_d (in a non-man-proselytising state) and believing in something - refusing to believe people with their huge conflicts of interests and definitely alienable priviledges and existences.

[F.J. Mitchell]

Trust if you must,but don't bend over to pick up the soap.

[lavaroise]

Let the anti-Islamic remarks begin.

Palazzi is anti-Islamic as we know the majority of Islam to be. He would most disagree with your statement since in the past he has urged muslims to learn by noting anti-islamic criticism in the West

[dennisw]

btttttttttttttt

[desertcry]

This is scary, 80% of the imams in the USA are islamists, who are breeding terrorists. The Homeland Sec. dept. has a BIG JOB.

[A Navy Vet]

Alrighty, then reconcile this:
The Qu'ran says [al-Ma'idah 5:51.8] "O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk."

...or this:
VIII/65: "O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred stedfast they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence."

...this...
VIII/12: "When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying:) I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then maim them in every limb and smite of them each finger."

Here's some more fun reading about the "blessed" Quran