Iraq air defenses fire on coalition aircraft (MATERIAL BREACH)

Fox News Channel | 11/15/2002 | FNC

[rmlew]

Wrong. They were part of the Cease fire agreement of March 1991.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Actually, yes the Pakis DO have a navy - they leased a bunch of ships from us at one point. In fact, during 'A' school in the navy over a decade ago, I trained on Radar and NTDS alongside a bunch of sailors from Pakistan. There ship I believe was called the PNS Suqqat... (fun name, that)

But I digress...

[DoughtyOne]

That could be true.

[Owl4USA]

Wow, I did not know that. Thanks for the tid-bit of information!

[per loin]

Shoulda whacked one of his palaces.

[KSApplePie_two]

Thats right.

Material Breach.

Whatcha gonna say about this one Tommy boy?

Hey Kofi NoMan. Should Isreal still give up all that land?

Hey BJ Clintoon. Ya still think we should just go after UBL?

Gosh I hope Gore says something about this in his chit chat with Bawa that just puts egg in face.

[Chad Fairbanks]

You are most welcome... :0)

[VRWC_minion]

So, what was your last screen name before you got banned ?

[cake_crumb]

"I stand corrected."

At least you're big enough to admit it. Was was trying to be polite, but I have a real problem with anyone, military, former or possibly impersonating, who accuses the US military or US government of crimes it did not commit.

[oldtimer]

I can just see Rumsfeld doing that.

[A Navy Vet]

Thanks for the reply, but I don't recognize ELT as a rating. ET and EW, yes, but then I've been out since '86.

[A Navy Vet]

Forgot...EM, EN, EO, EA. I was ABF orginally then converted to NC. Glad to see you admit to the mistake...we all make 'em.

[aculeus]

Let's stop pussyfooting around with this blighter - he needs his head caved in.

Roger, wilco.

[Publius Maximus]

"On the wider issue of air operations in Iraq, both fixed-wing and rotary, Iraq will guarantee the safety of air operations in its air space outside the no-fly zones. With regard to air operations in the no-fly zones, Iraq will take all steps within its control to ensure the safety of such operations."

Call me silly, but my reading of that would indeed support the claim of a material breach of 1441 if Iraq, after accepting the resolution, would then fire upon allied aircraft. But the Eurof*gs will, to use the words of Lady Thatcher, "go wobbly," no doubt. Dubya needs to establish the precedent of what "zero tolerance" means, right now.

Let's get this over with, already.

[pacpam]

Seems it is okay then to level more than the shooter, but all within the original resolution without claiming breach of the new one. Saddam is so accommodating.

[USNBandit]

They don't call it the "Mobile Chernobyl" for nothin'. Hey, there is part of the southern no fly zone that is not recognized by some in the U.N. Not sure exactly when, but the U.S. and U.K. moved the Southern Watch boundary north a degree of latitude in response to Iraqi violations and threats to Allied aircraft. It was sometime between 95 and 98 (My two cruises in support of Southern Watch).

As for improvement to SAM capabilities, it is prohibited in the 91 cease fire to make any improvements or to move fixed SAM sites in either of the no fly zones.

[TigersEye]

LOL...bump for my Thirty.