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Pelosi on The Today Show: "I'm a Conservative Catholic"
The Today Show

Posted on 11/15/2002 4:25:22 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

Matt Lauer just completed an interview with Nancy Pelosi. After some standard stuff about her "historic" role as the first woman to lead a congressional party, Lauer asked a a pretty probing question:

"When Republicans chose Newt as their leader, Democrats were quick to say they had gone too far right. Why shouldn't the Republicans now say that in choosing you, the Democrats have gone too far left?"

Pelosi answered by stating that while she represented her district in SF (implying that she was being very liberal in representing a very liberal district), she will lead "right down the center" of the Dem caucus.

She then added the following statement: "When people call me a liberal, I call myself a conservative Catholic."

I had heard Pelosi make the same statement in an interview yesterday, so this clearly seems to be a standard part of her defense to the charge that she's too liberal to lead successfully.

I'm not Catholic, but I have to assume that many true "conservative Catholics" will be upset by hearing Pelosi claim that label. It is hard to imagine an authentic conservative Catholic supporting unrestricted abortion, including partial birth abortion, as does Pelosi.

Pelosi failed to vote to ban PBA even when an exception was included for the life of the mother. I think it is thus fair to categorize her as a pro-abortion extremist. Given that record, to go on national TV and call herself a conservative Catholic seems the height of gall and duplicity.

As a sidenote, Pelosi also trotted out what the Dems have apparently decided to make their new theme: "Safety and Soundness," apparently some combination of national security and economic progress. Instant nominee for the "Lamest Political Slogan of the Decade."


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To: governsleastgovernsbest

We're conservative nuns!!!!!

21 posted on 11/15/2002 4:49:20 AM PST by Dick Vomer
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To: Dick Vomer
hehehe... I can just see the Sex And The City girls come out of the closet and announce they're Republicans after all! :)
22 posted on 11/15/2002 4:50:41 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I hate to break it to you Catholics out there, but the Lavender Mafia has infiltrated your church so thoroughly that Pelosi's statement may not be as crazy as it sounds. :-(
23 posted on 11/15/2002 4:50:43 AM PST by cgbg
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To: DWSUWF
Actually, I forgot to mention that in the latter part of the interview, she did call herself "a time-travelling Cyborg:

"I bring you wonderful news from the year 2008," she said. "President Rodham sends you her greetings!"
24 posted on 11/15/2002 4:51:14 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"Safety and Soundness," ... Instant nominee for the "Lamest Political Slogan of the Decade."

And they laughed at Compassionate Conservative.

25 posted on 11/15/2002 4:51:30 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: DWSUWF
LOL! HILARIOUS!!!
26 posted on 11/15/2002 4:52:03 AM PST by Skywalk
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
How long before the hard core Left dumps Pelosi in the event she does announce she's really a Blue Dog at heart?? ;-)
27 posted on 11/15/2002 4:52:35 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: ClearCase_guy
I guess Pelosi will tell us next she's a Compassionate Conservative. ;-)
28 posted on 11/15/2002 4:53:11 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Is there a MR. Polass anywhere?
29 posted on 11/15/2002 4:53:42 AM PST by smiley
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To: cgbg
To Pelosi any Catholic that dosen't practice sodomy during Mass is a conservative Catholic. :-(
30 posted on 11/15/2002 4:53:43 AM PST by cgbg
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"...Actually, I forgot to mention that in the latter part of the interview, she did call herself "a time-travelling Cyborg:..."

LOL!

31 posted on 11/15/2002 4:54:08 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: DWSUWF
Yeah and next Arnold Schwarzennegger will be her running mate in 2008.
32 posted on 11/15/2002 4:55:47 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: ClearCase_guy
"Safety and Soundness," apparently some combination of national security and economic progress. Instant nominee for the "Lamest Political Slogan of the Decade."

Does anyone remember Laurence Olivier as the fiendish ex-Nazi in "Marathon Man", torturing Dustin Hoffman while asking him repeatedly: "Is it safe? Is it safe?"

For their next campaign, perhaps the Dems can use clips of that, while questioning the wisdom of W's policies!

33 posted on 11/15/2002 4:57:40 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"Safety and Soundness" should not be under-rated as a political slogan !

It appears to me, an increasing number of woman voters are endorsing- no - make that demanding socialism as a way of life : the celebrated " Nanny State " .

The selection of folks like Pelosi is a signal from the Democrats that they will go along with " Nanny-ism " ; and you can bet your bottom dollar they will buttress that signal by pushing for a female presidential candidate !

34 posted on 11/15/2002 4:57:52 AM PST by genefromjersey
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
She's as Catholic as Osama.

To be a Catholic, one must assent to the teachings of the Church. A Catholic may dissent in ignorance, but once presented with the Church's teaching on a particular issue a Catholic must assent to the teaching in obedience to Church authority. Failure to assent to Church teaching signifies the lack of the theological virtue of faith and thereby represents a de facto rejection of Christ and His Church. Heresy is defined as the obstinate, post-baptismal refusal to obey Church teaching. From the Catechism:

Abortion

2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person -- among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.(71)

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you. (72)

My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth .(73)

2271 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law:

You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish .(74)

God, the Lord of life, has entrusted to men the noble mission of safeguarding life, and men must carry it out in a manner worthy of themselves. Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception: abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes.(75)

2272 Formal co-operation in an abortion constitutes a grave offence. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. 'A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae' (76) 'by the very commission of the offence', (77) and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law . (78) The Church does not thereby intend to restrict the scope of mercy. Rather, she makes clear the gravity of the crime committed, the irreparable harm done to the innocent who is put to death, as well as to the parents and the whole of society.

2273 The inalienable right to life of every innocent human individual is a constitutive element of a civil society and its legislation:

'The inalienable rights of the person must be recognized and respected by civil society and the political authority. These human rights depend neither on single individuals nor on parents; nor do they represent a concession made by society and the state; they belong to human nature and are inherent in the person by virtue of the creative act from which the person took his origin. Among such fundamental rights one should mention in this regard every human being's right to life and physical integrity from the moment of conception until death.'(79)

'The moment a positive law deprives a category of human beings of the protection which civil legislation ought to accord them, the state is denying the equality of all before the law. When the state does not place its power at the service of the rights of each citizen, and in particular of the more vulnerable, the very foundations of a state based on law are undermined. . . As a consequence of the respect and protection which must be ensured for the unborn child from the moment of conception, the law must provide appropriate penal sanctions for every deliberate violation of the child's rights.' (80)

2274 Since it must be treated from conception as a person, the embryo must be defended in its integrity, cared for, and healed, as far as possible, like any other human being.

Prenatal diagnosis is morally licit, 'if it respects the life and integrity of the embryo and the human foetus and is directed toward its safeguarding or healing as an individual... It is gravely opposed to the moral law when this is done with the thought of possibly inducing an abortion, depending upon the results: a diagnosis must not be the equivalent of a death sentence.' (81)

2275 'One must hold as licit procedures carried out on the human embryo which respect the life and integrity of the embryo and do not involve disproportionate risks for it, but are directed toward its healing, the improvement of its condition of health, or its individual survival.' (82)

'It is immoral to produce human embryos intended for exploitation as disposable biological material.' (83)

'Certain attempts to influence chromosomic or genetic inheritance are not therapeutic but are aimed at producing human beings selected according to sex or other predetermined qualities. Such manipulations are contrary to the personal dignity of the human being and his integrity and identity' (84) which are unique and unrepeatable.

 
35 posted on 11/15/2002 4:58:33 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
This is all part of the President Jeb Bartlett ploy. On West Wing, the liberals favorite (non-real) President will sometimes make a big show out of participating in the RITUALS of the Catholic Church. They recently showed some scenes of a church choir, with "President" Bartlett in attendance, singing at High Mass and "President" Bartlett carefully crossing himself. That is what passes muster for being religious in liberal-land.

I'm sure Pelosi attends church (for PR reasons) and also goes thru the rituals as "President" Bartlett does but does it really mean anything except that it allows Pelosi to make the ridiculous claim that she is a "conservative Catholic?"

36 posted on 11/15/2002 4:59:14 AM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: genefromjersey
"Safety and Soundness" should not be under-rated as a political slogan !

Perhaps you're right, but I still don't think it's nearly as catchy as "Tippecanoe and Tyler Too!", not to mention "54 40 or Fight!"

37 posted on 11/15/2002 5:00:41 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: DWSUWF
She can call herself a Conservative, Negro, Time-travelling, Cyborg Catholic if it pleases her to do so...

Great response!!!

38 posted on 11/15/2002 5:00:53 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"Safety and Soundness," apparently some combination of national security and economic progress. Instant nominee for the "Lamest Political Slogan of the Decade."

It will rank right down there with WIN---"Whip Inflation Now" back in the Disco Era.

39 posted on 11/15/2002 5:00:55 AM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix
Granted it may be a fraud but imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Pelosi wouldn't be favorably using the adjective conservative if this were really a 50-50 nation. She's a smart cookie to see that there aren't enough liberals in this country to take her any higher than San Francisco.
40 posted on 11/15/2002 5:02:20 AM PST by goldstategop
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