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New Gun Grab In The Works, Already Passed the House HR 4757
GOA Gun Owners Of America ^ | 1-12-2002 | None

Posted on 11/12/2002 5:10:09 PM PST by chuknospam

Millions More to Be Barred from Gun Ownership -- Immediate Action Needed

Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151 Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org

November 12, 2002

The House has passed H.R. 4757, the so-called "Our Lady of Peace Act." Its chief sponsor is the rabidly anti-gun Rep. Carolyn McCarthy of New York.

Not surprisingly, one of the other rabid anti-gunners from New York, Senator Chuck Shumer (D), has sponsored the companion bill in the Senate (S. 2826).

The bill would require states to turn over vast numbers of sometimes-personal records (on potentially all Americans) to the FBI for use in connection with the Instantcheck. These records would include any state record relevant to the question of whether a person is prohibited from owning a gun.

This starts with a large volume of mental health records, but the FBI could also require that a state forward ALL of its employment and tax records in order to identify persons who are illegal aliens. It could require that states forward information concerning drug diversion programs and arrests that do not lead to prosecution, in order to determine whether a person was "an unlawful user of... any controlled substance...."

The bill would also help FBI officials to effectively stop millions of additional Americans from purchasing a firearm, because they were guilty in the past of committing slight misdemeanors. You might remember the Lautenberg Gun Ban which President Bill Clinton signed in 1996? Because of this ban, people who have committed very minor offenses that include pushing, shoving or, in some cases, even yelling at a family member have discovered that they can no longer own a firearm for self-defense.

But the anti-gun nuts in Congress are upset because many of the states' criminal records are incomplete. As a result, the FBI does not access all of these records when screening the background of someone who purchases a firearm from a gun dealer. The McCarthy-Schumer bill would change all that and keep millions of decent, peaceful citizens from owning a firearm because of one slight offense committed in their past.

The bill also reaches for a gun owning prohibition on nearly 3 million more Americans who have spent time in mental health facilities. This group has no more involvement in violent crime than does the rest of the population. But even assuming that those with (often minor and treatable) mental health histories are "bad" guys, this bill is NOT about keeping bad guys from getting guns. Bad guys will ALWAYS be able to get guns, no matter how many restrictions there are.

This bill is all about control. Schumer and McCarthy want to keep pushing their agenda forward, making it impossible for more and more Americans to legally own guns! But if it is OK to ban gun ownership for certain people who have engaged in a shouting match with another family member, or who have stayed overnight in a hospital for emotional observation or who have been written a prescription for depression, then who will be next on the McCarthy-Schumer hit list? People who drink an occasional beer? People who take "mind altering" cold medicines -- Nyquil, TheraFlu, etc.?

H.R. 4757 and S. 2826 are major, anti-self defense bills that will only make the country safer for criminals while opening the door to invading the privacy of all Americans.

A near-total gun ban on the island of Great Britain has resulted in England suffering from the highest violent crime rate of any industrialized country. Why would a less oppressive form of gun control work when an outright ban has failed to keep guns out of the wrong hands?

ACTION:

Please contact your Senators and demand that this bill be stopped. A pre-written message is provided below. To identify your Senators, as well as to send the message via e-mail, see the Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm on the GOA website.

----- Pre-written message -----

Dear Senator:

I am shocked that the Senate has before it a bill (S. 2826) that would prohibit millions of Americans from owning a gun for self-defense. Those who would be banned present no greater risk of committing violent crimes than does the rest of the population. Are all the rest of us next?

Please vote against this monstrosity (also known as the Our Lady of Peace bill) if it comes to the floor of the Senate for a vote. Gun Owners of America will be using this vote for their rating of Congress.

I would like to hear from you about whether you support this massive increase in gun control.

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Please do not reply directly to this message, as your reply will bounce back as undeliverable.

To subscribe to free, low-volume GOA alerts, go to http://www.gunowners.org/ean.htm on the web. Change of e-mail address may also be made at that location.

To unsubscribe send a message to gunowners_list@capwiz.mailmanager.net with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.

Problems, questions or comments? The main GOA e-mail address goamail@gunowners.org is at your disposal. Please do not add that address to distribution lists sending more than ten messages per week or lists associated with issues other than gun rights.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol
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It only takes a second to fill out the online form & send a message, it works & I receive written replies from my reps, so they do receive & read the messages.
1 posted on 11/12/2002 5:10:10 PM PST by chuknospam
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To: chuknospam
It is in every law-abiding gun owner's interest to prevent nutjobs from walking in and buying a gun.
2 posted on 11/12/2002 5:12:19 PM PST by mvpel
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To: mvpel
It's in every free society's interest to prevent nutjob politicians from keeping tabs on who is and isn't armed.
3 posted on 11/12/2002 5:15:28 PM PST by inquest
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To: mvpel
It is in every law-abiding gun owner's interest to prevent nutjobs from walking in and buying a gun.

Is it in the interest of anyone to have a database of all this information on American citizens in Washington? Maybe we can find other uses for such a database?
4 posted on 11/12/2002 5:15:31 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: chuknospam
Really, folks, why should American voters have to stand watch over the Capitol to assure that their own representatives are not putting them out of the freedom business?

Isn't it about time to invite people like Schummer and others of his ilk to leave the business of politics to other, more "American Minded" people? Who keeps electing these ouevos dormindos?
5 posted on 11/12/2002 5:16:25 PM PST by RISU
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To: mvpel
BUMP
6 posted on 11/12/2002 5:25:01 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: mvpel
It is in every law-abiding gun owner's interest to prevent nutjobs from walking in and buying a gun.

So you basically assert that anyone who has any psychological treatment at any time is automatically not a law-abiding gun owner, or potentially one.

I would rather every nut in the country were given a gun, and all guns taken away from any member of the government or citizenry who takes part, at any level, in the disarming American Citizens, as you are for advocating it.

What is it you intend to do to these disarmed Americans?

Hank

7 posted on 11/12/2002 5:25:44 PM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: Arkinsaw
Hate to be the one to break the news to you but if the Feds are lookiing for you they know exactly where you are...that is unless you have quit using your phone, checking account, computer or credit cards...
8 posted on 11/12/2002 5:26:24 PM PST by kellynla
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To: RISU
Dead people, folks looking for a free cup of coffee and a doughnut, brainwashed college kids, "Do I gets a rock if I's votes?", ah the list is positivly endless!
9 posted on 11/12/2002 5:26:36 PM PST by cavtrooper21
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To: chuknospam
How did this pass the House? What is the President's position on this?
10 posted on 11/12/2002 5:26:42 PM PST by caltrop
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To: RISU
I understand 15 million american women own guns now!

PAXTON QUIGLEY Author of Armed and Female and Not An Easy Target

Tonight PAXTON QUIGLEY will be live on Unspun

11 posted on 11/12/2002 5:30:58 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: mvpel
These clowns define anybody who wants to own a gun as a nutjob. No thanks. Anybody who wants a gun should have the right to buy one - no questions asked. That would at least put the rest of us on the same footing as the bad guys.
12 posted on 11/12/2002 5:31:32 PM PST by caltrop
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To: chuknospam
The House has passed H.R. 4757, the so-called "Our Lady of Peace Act." Its chief sponsor is the rabidly anti-gun Rep. Carolyn McCarthy of New York.

Did it pass some House Committee or has it been voted on in the whole House? What was the vote count?

13 posted on 11/12/2002 5:32:43 PM PST by hattend
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To: caltrop
From a gun grabbers site ( neahin )

HR 4757, the Our Lady of Peace Act, was introduced in the 107th Congress by Representatives Carolyn McCarthy and John Dingell in May 2002.

(A companion bill, S. 2826, was introduced in the Senate in late July by Senators Larry Craig, John McCain, Charles Schumer and Edward Kennedy.)

The bill, which would "fix" the faulty records in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), has won the support of groups on all sides of the gun issue: Americans for Gun Safety; National Rifle Association; the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence; and the Brady Campaign.

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These may go nowhere, but let's keep an eye on 'em anyway.
14 posted on 11/12/2002 5:33:23 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: mvpel
It is in every law-abiding gun owner's interest to prevent nutjobs from walking in and buying a gun.

mvpel, You are hereby declared to be a "nutjob". Hand in your guns -- now!

How would you defend yourself against that accusation?

TXnMA (No Longer!!!)

15 posted on 11/12/2002 5:33:52 PM PST by TXnMA
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To: chuknospam
The Lautenberg Amendment must be repealed. Taking 2A rights from Americans for pushing, shoving, or yelling would disarm virtually every American.

Frank Lautenberg - "Don't you think, that is, wouldn't you agree that every American that has a semi-automatic weapon oughta turn that weapon in?"

16 posted on 11/12/2002 5:40:14 PM PST by copycat
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To: chuknospam
If I am reading the Louseinberg Law correctly, it means that Clintoon cannot own or purchase a firearm because of the perjury case ????
17 posted on 11/12/2002 5:40:36 PM PST by Renegade
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To: hattend
Out of the comm. on crime, terrorism and homeland security.Rules suspended, voted and tossed in Senate lap. No vote record on Thomas.
18 posted on 11/12/2002 5:44:35 PM PST by spunkets
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To: copycat
"The Lautenberg Amendment must be repealed."

Instead of repealing it, they're embedding it further in law.

19 posted on 11/12/2002 5:45:47 PM PST by spunkets
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To: chuknospam
The House has passed

Gasp! But the House is controlled by the GOP. Hmmmmm. If Republicans are pro-RKBA, then why did they pass.......

Doh!!!

Be happy we have a Republican congress....no matter what they do.

20 posted on 11/12/2002 5:48:44 PM PST by ForOurFuture
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