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Are you getting your money's worth from school taxes?
email | 11/11/02 | Craig J. Cantoni

Posted on 11/12/2002 10:07:07 AM PST by hsmomx3

It is a safe bet that you do not know how much you pay in school taxes. And if you do not know, you do not have an objective way of determining if you are getting your money's worth. This article attempts to provide an answer.

If you are a homeowner and not a renter, the starting point is your property tax bill, which lists how much of your property taxes goes towards education. Of course, the bill will not tell you how much you pay in other taxes to public schools, a number that is virtually impossible to determine.

Incidentally, the hidden nature of the other school taxes is one of the reasons that teacher unions and the education establishment want schools funded out of general revenue instead of property taxes.

Although it is an incomplete picture, let's focus on property taxes for a moment, using my property taxes as a starting point.

Sixty-four percent of my property taxes, or $1,853, goes to schools, excluding the additional $358 that goes to community colleges. That is a 35 percent increase over the last five years, or three times the inflation rate for the period.

When I lived in New Jersey for 10 years, the property taxes were over twice as much as the taxes on my current home in Scottsdale Arizona, due to the Garden State spending $10,000 per student, versus Arizona's $7,000.

Let's assume that an Arizona homeowner with a house worth half as much as mine pays half the school property taxes, or $926. And for ease of calculation, let's also assume that the amount stays constant in inflation-adjusted dollars over the homeowner's adult lifetime, which we will say for discussion purposes is 60 years.

With those assumptions, the homeowner will pay approximately $55,560 in education-related property taxes over his adult life (60 years times $926). I will pay twice as much, or $111,120, excluding the much higher amount that I paid while living in New Jersey.

Now let's assume that Arizona's per-pupil spending of about $7,000 also stays constant in inflation-adjusted dollars. That means that the 12-year cost of a public k-12 education is $84,000.

Thus, the person paying $926 a year in education-related taxes is getting a good deal, putting aside the issue of educational quality. If he sends one kid to public school for 12 years, he gets $84,000 worth of education at a cost in lifetime property-related taxes of $55,560. The deal is even better if he has three kids. In that case, he gets $252,000 worth of education at a cost of $55,560.

Of course, it is not a good deal if he has no kids or if he sends his kids to private school, in which case he gets $0 worth of education at a cost of $55,560. Since my kid attends parochial school, I get an even worse deal. I will pay $111,120 to public schools and another $50,000 or so in private tuition, for a total of $161,120 to provide my son with a k-12 education.

Another way to look at my cost and the cost of all parents who send their kids to religious schools is that we are paying twice for the same education in order to exercise our religious freedom. That angle is never covered in the mainstream media on the voucher debate and the related issue of the separation of church and state.

Are you getting your money's worth from public education? The answer is "yes" if you send at least one kid to public school, especially if you live in a lower-priced house. The answer is "definitely yes" if you send more than one kid to public school. The answer is "no" if you do not have children. And the answer is "definitely no" if your kid attends private school.

According to Genesis 1:28, the Lord told Adam and Eve, "Be fruitful and multiply." He should said, "To get a good deal at your neighbor's expense, be fruitful, multiply and send your kids to public schools."

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Mr. Cantoni is an author, public speaker and consultant. He can be reached at ccan2@aol.com.


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1 posted on 11/12/2002 10:07:07 AM PST by hsmomx3
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To: hsmomx3
It should be noted that renters pay property taxes, too. They just don't know it because the taxes are built into their rent payments.
2 posted on 11/12/2002 10:12:21 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: hsmomx3; Vic3O3
I'd love to see President Bush put a tax credit or tax rebate into the next tax reform for people who chose to educated their children in private/parochial/home schools.

When the revenues start falling off in the public schools they may start to wake up and realize that they are failing.

Semper Fi
3 posted on 11/12/2002 10:13:11 AM PST by dd5339
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To: dd5339
I pray that this Congress could pass such a tax credit, but I won't hold my breath. I can only imagine the kind of offense the lib/dems and teachers union would mount against such a thing.
4 posted on 11/12/2002 10:15:15 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: hsmomx3
I never get any value for these tax dollars since my child is in private school. I put her there because she has 'special needs' that the government school couldn't handle. Her special needs are for something better than mediocrity, and her unwillingness to settle for a lousy education in an unsafe environment.
6 posted on 11/12/2002 10:17:55 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
If you consider that it is a competitive world and we as parents need to provide the best for our kids, you are getting a double bang for your money. You are providing your child with a superior education while helping fund a public education system that will ensure that its graduates will never be able to compete with your child. Offense and defense.
7 posted on 11/12/2002 10:23:14 AM PST by battlecry
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To: battlecry
LOL!
8 posted on 11/12/2002 10:27:56 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: hsmomx3
Are you getting your money's worth from public education? The answer is "yes" if you send at least one kid to public school, especially if you live in a lower-priced house.

The answer is "definitely yes" if you send more than one kid to public school.

The answer is "no" if you do not have children.

And the answer is "definitely no" if your kid attends private school.

And if you homeschool, it's even more depressing.

9 posted on 11/12/2002 10:32:55 AM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Alberta's Child
Hell ya...and the town I'm in has cranked up property taxes 3 times in the last 2 years to cover their so called projects...meanwhile half of the roads have gone to crap. I wish some outside agency would audit the crooks...
10 posted on 11/12/2002 10:34:23 AM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: MD_Willington_1976
Property taxes are the best argument against ever "owning" your home. I know people in New Jersey who are content to pay $9,000 per year in property taxes just because they are in a "good school system."

How can you possibly say that you own your home when it costs you $750 per month to live there even after your mortgage is paid and your title is free and clear of all liens?

11 posted on 11/12/2002 10:37:56 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: hsmomx3
The argument for publicly funded schools is predicated on the notion (and a convincing one at that) that society is better served by an educated populace. The problem with public schools falling short is a relatively new one, exacerbated by national teachers unions and control moved from local to near-national control.

As someone who does not have children, and does not plan on having any in the near future, I pay dearly for the idea of a workable public school system. I do not object to that premise. However, as the years go by, I am increasingly convinced that the what the government is providing is not an education, but a variation on daycare.

I think the simplest assessment of the current situation is that no one is getting their money's worth.

12 posted on 11/12/2002 10:41:02 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: anniegetyourgun
Actually, Senator George Allen (R-VA) sponsored a bill on that a year ago. . .but it got overwhelmed by 9/11. . .
13 posted on 11/12/2002 10:45:50 AM PST by Salgak
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To: hsmomx3
definately no.
14 posted on 11/12/2002 10:48:24 AM PST by Gophack
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To: hsmomx3
No way in H***! I worked for a manager in PA, who lasted less than a year (he lied to get his job and was a total waste product -- Columbia U grad) who was married to a teacher.

For 82K a year (1995 bucks) we had a woman who was a Special Ed teacher (this is the bottom of the bottom of the college graduates) that finagled her way into teaching 6th grade math. For 1 1/2 years she would bring her students questions home to her husband and get back the next day with the answer. I can't believe this moron told me this more than once! Of course, he was a lib.

15 posted on 11/12/2002 10:52:32 AM PST by ReaganIsRight
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To: hsmomx3
There are many, many gym teachers, librarians and school nurses who are getting well over $70,000 for 190 days of work in Delaware County Pa. And that doesn't count benefits or extra-curricular work.

School choice, now!

16 posted on 11/12/2002 12:02:19 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: hsmomx3
I'd be getting my money's worth if we weren't homeschooling our kids.(4 girls so far)
17 posted on 11/12/2002 12:32:26 PM PST by Melinas_Man
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To: hsmomx3
Of course, it is not a good deal if he has no kids or if he sends his kids to private school or homeschools his kids.

Bingo!

18 posted on 11/12/2002 12:33:27 PM PST by cruiserman
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To: Mr. Bird
The argument for publicly funded schools is predicated on the notion (and a convincing one at that) that society is better served by an educated populace.

That argument assumes that educating kids in gov't schools is the way to do it, not through individual choice.

19 posted on 11/12/2002 12:36:12 PM PST by cruiserman
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To: anniegetyourgun
I never get any value for these tax dollars since my child is in private school. I put her there because she has 'special needs' that the government school couldn't handle. Her special needs are for something better than mediocrity, and her unwillingness to settle for a lousy education in an unsafe environment

Ditto!!
20 posted on 11/12/2002 12:43:37 PM PST by Sweet_Sunflower29
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