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The Great Dem Hope: Senator McCain, care to switch?
National Review Online ^ | November 12, 2002 | Stanley Kurtz

Posted on 11/12/2002 6:21:02 AM PST by xsysmgr

The Democrats are in trouble. I'll get to that in a bit. But first, consider the following scenario, wherein the Democrats take back the Senate within months. Step one is Mary Landrieu's successful defense of her Senate seat on December 7. Step two: John Chafee and John McCain simultaneously become Democrats next January, moving the Senate back to a 51/49 Democrat majority (with Jeffords still supporting the Democrats).

Since the election, there's been some speculation about a Chafee switch, but little said about McCain. Yet the signs are there. Shortly before the election, McCain hired as his legislative director Christine Dodd, formerly a staffer for a liberal Democratic congressman. And now Marshall Wittmann (known by his online sobriquet, "The Moose") has signed on as McCain's director of communications (after having changed his registration from Republican to Independent).

Prior to the election, there was speculation (much of it by the Moose himself) about a McCain run for president, either as an Independent or as a Democrat. At the time, McCain's office dampened the speculation of a presidential run by downplaying rumors of Wittmann's immanent appointment as communications director. But Wittmann is on board now, and it seems very likely that McCain is on the verge of announcing his presidential candidacy.

From McCain's point of view, the Democratic nomination must look mighty tantalizing right now. With antiwar liberal Nancy Pelosi as its newest high-profile spokesman, the party is digging itself ever more deeply into its rut. Even more mainstream Democratic presidential hopefuls will find it difficult to distance themselves from their party's leftist and anti-war base during the primaries. If McCain sails into the fray with his tough-minded foreign policy, war-hero credentials, and moderate-liberal domestic platform, it could electrify the public and bring moderate primary voters to the polls in droves. The other Democrats would split the leftist base, handing McCain the nomination.

By switching parties early next year, shifting the Senate, and announcing a run for the presidency, McCain would precipitate a media firestorm, and immediately set himself up as the most-credible Democratic critic of the president's war policy. Given that dynamic, moderate and even liberal Democrats will seize upon McCain as the only realistic option for taking the presidency away from Bush in '04.

This Sunday, George Stephanopoulos asked John Kerry if he'd be willing to bring McCain on as his running mate. McCain, of course, would reverse the order, but the interesting thing is that Stephanopoulos was asking at all. Obviously, a McCain party-switch was on Stephanopoulos' mind. (The idea of a McCain-Kerry ticket, by the way, was first floated by Marshall Wittmann.)

Let's play out our scenario. McCain takes the Democratic nomination. Certainly, a McCain victory is imaginable. Once the issue ceases to be Bush's national-security strength against the Democrats' weakness, setbacks in the war on terror or problems with the occupation of Iraq will cut against the president. McCain will claim to have a plan. He will know how to truly transform Iraq and Afghanistan, stand up to al Qaeda, etc.

But the more-likely scenario in the event of a McCain candidacy would be Democratic meltdown and schism. With a complex and troubled occupation of Iraq, more war on the horizon, and a growing worldwide anti-American peace movement, the Democratic Left will not stick around to vote for McCain. It will bolt to the Greens, leaving Bush in the driver's seat, and the Democrats in tatters.

Of course this wild scenario will probably never play out. But it is surprisingly plausible. A Democratic recapture of the Senate is unlikely, of course. Everything has to break the right way, and Zell Miller would have to stay put. But even if a bit less electrifying, a McCain party switch that did not return power to the Democrats would still get huge media attention.

What's important here, though, is not the particular scenario, but the underlying split in the Democrats' ranks that makes all this speculation plausible. I'm stuck by how many Democrats honestly seem to believe that they would have done better in the election had they opposed the president on the war. I'm amazed that the Democrats have turned on Dick Gephardt instead of on McDermott and Bonior. None of this ought to surprise me, but I do nonetheless find it hard to believe that the case for this war is so little credited, or even understood, by the Democrats.

The exodus from Egypt keeps popping into my head — the way the Jews were forced to wander the desert for 40 years, forbidden to enter the Promised Land until the slave generation died off. I think our Vietnam syndrome is of similarly biblical proportion. Not until the baby boomers are dead and gone (and maybe not even then) will the Vietnam syndrome cease to be a fundamental factor in our national life. Have a look at Heather Hurlburt's cover piece in the latest issue of The Washington Monthly. The story it tells is of a Democratic party that cannot talk — or even think — about matters of defense and national security. The Democrats seem to be suffering from a kind of deep internal taboo on the subject of national defense.

All the talk about "chicken hawks" hasn't done much to deter or discourage the hawks from pressing their case, but I do think the "chicken hawk" theme helps explain why the Democrats are incapable of coming to grips with this war (even to coherently critique it, much less embrace it — as their Democratic forbears surely would have).

You see, when they talk about the so-called chicken hawks, the Democratic Left is really talking about themselves — about the way they would feel about themselves were they to accept the case for this war. To become a hawk, even in circumstances very different from Vietnam, would activate intolerable shame and self-doubt in those who avoided service under the banner of the peace movement. These people went beyond mere opposition to the tactics or pragmatics of Vietnam and turned anti-militarism into a kind of quasi-religious imperative. So to acknowledge that there are circumstances when patriotism, strength, and the use of force are not only justified, but noble, would shatter a moral self-image cultivated over literally decades.

That is the sort of thing that can break a party in two. For the Vietnam generation, the war issue touches on core issues of self-understanding, which clearly trumps party affiliation. Republicans don't harp on the fact that Ralph Nader's candidacy cost Gore the presidency. That only highlights the tenuous nature of the president's victory. Embarrassed by the Nader debacle, the Democrats don't have much to say about it either. But today, that remarkable, yet too little remarked episode should be very much on our minds.

The inability of the Vietnam generation to reconcile itself to a just war fought in the national interest spells potential disaster for the Democratic party. So long as the Democrats come off as weak (and how can they not?) they are doomed. Yet any Democratic leader tough enough to win over the American people on the war will drive at least a portion of his party into the arms of the Greens. If Nader could sink the Democrats when the country was evenly split and there was no war, or overriding issue, what will happen when we face a serious peace movement?

But the problem for the Democrats doesn't depend on any single scenario. Even without a McCain candidacy, or a Nader figure on the Left, a hawkish Democratic candidate means that disgruntled leftists will stay home on Election Day. I do think, though, that some sort of multiparty scenario (either a revived Green candidacy, a McCain independent candidacy, or both) is now a realistic possibility.

Of course, much depends on what happens with the war itself. Quick and unexpected success in Iraq, and in the post-war occupation, could cut both ways — discrediting the anti-war Democrats, yet also shifting the country back to domestic issues. But the war doesn't look to be ending any time soon. A difficult occupation of Iraq and a spiraling war on terror would accentuate the split in the country, energizing Republicans behind the war and the president, encouraging moderate Democratic critics, but also generating a peace movement that would demand a Green Party protest candidacy. So almost any war scenario is mostly bad for the Democrats.

The Sixties ethos will not go gentle into that goodnight. Just ask McDermott, Bonior, and Pelosi. Decades after the fact, the Vietnam protestors are trapped by their rhetoric, by their self-image, by their actions, by their very souls. They will not change. They cannot change. And because of that, it will likely be a while before the Democrats reach the Promised Land.

Stanley Kurtz is a research fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University.


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KEYWORDS: democrats; losers
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To: prophetic
LOL!
21 posted on 11/12/2002 7:08:25 AM PST by ReaganRevolution
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To: Howlin
Yes, the Dems are deperate and desperation makes people act crazy.
22 posted on 11/12/2002 7:09:03 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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To: Cacique
btt
23 posted on 11/12/2002 7:11:29 AM PST by Cacique
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To: xsysmgr
1) McCain is not switching;

2) Terrel will win in La.

3) South Dakota is not over yet

4) Chaffee won't switch because of what is about to happen to Jeffords.

24 posted on 11/12/2002 7:12:47 AM PST by MattinNJ
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To: xsysmgr
Obviously this journalist didn't catch the statement from Chaffee about him switching sides.

"INCONCEIVABLE," that's what Chaffee said.

For anybody that missed the thread (it was very entertaining) here's the address.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/784649/posts
25 posted on 11/12/2002 7:13:56 AM PST by dawn53
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To: xsysmgr
As of this time, Landerieau is likely to lose in Louisiana. And my own personal speculation, which is as good as this guy's, is that McCain is not going anywhere either--for a whole host of reasons. He would be a joke as a Dem; although we may have reached the point where a third party candidate might win it all, it won't be a third party candidate who is addressed to a fringe. Chaffee might switch.

But all of this stuff points up the need to take an aggressive posture with respect to the vote fraud in South Dakota.

26 posted on 11/12/2002 7:14:17 AM PST by David
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To: Walkin Man
McCain just worked for the election of Graham in SC, Hagel in NE and Collins in ME (as well as some gubernatorial winners and House winners). So now they think he'll switch parties? These people are smoking the wacky weed.

I see this happening only in the twilight zone:

"Hey Lindsey, congratulations on winning that Senate race."
"Thanks. I appreciated your support. It'll be great to work in the majority!"
"Yeah, about that... you're now in the minority. I just switched parties."

27 posted on 11/12/2002 7:14:56 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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To: longtermmemmory
Terrell's campaign says their likely voter poll already has Landrieu losing.

Cheney, Elizabeth Dole, Bush, and Giuliani are all headed to the bayou.
28 posted on 11/12/2002 7:16:21 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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To: sharktrager
...he can threaten to leave, and use that threat to force the Republicans to support him in some of his crusades.

He doesn't have to do that. He can just do the same thing that Byrd from W.Virginia has been doing for decades - withhold his vote unless he "gets something".

My personal bet is that a lot of Republican Senators are now going to ask for pork, pork, pork to agree to sign on to White House desired legislation. Oh, not right away, so not on the Homeland Security bill...but within about 6 months it is going to be traditional Senatorial pork, pork, pork, oh where's my PORK!!

And of course, Democrat senators will do the same - since they can undercut Republican senators who want pork by offering their votes for "pork lite."

29 posted on 11/12/2002 7:17:11 AM PST by dark_lord
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To: ReaganRevolution
With you. He looks ill. That cancer damaged him, and running for the presidency is hugely draining. But I don't ever see McCain going to the Dems, no matter what. He has an 84 rating from the ACU, no matter what we think of it, it would destroy the Dems - Colmes would have a meltdown.
30 posted on 11/12/2002 7:18:41 AM PST by I still care
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To: xsysmgr
As out of step as McCain is in the GOP, he would be even moreso with the Democrats. He's way too hawkish on national security issues to be palatable to the current Pelosi-ized Dems.

McCain's natural base, if he still has one, is with independents, RINOs and whatever moderate Dems are still left. If he left the Republican Party, I believe it would be to become an Independent or maybe form some centrist third party. Such a party might be viable in the next few years if enough moderate Democrats get fed up with the hard left turn their party is abut to take.

The problem for McCain is, that as long as Bush's approval ratings remain high, and his approval among Republicans stays in the 90s, Senator French Fry really doesn't have much of an opening. What's he going to run on other than CFR? He's already played that issue for all it's worth, and then some, and I suspect he knows that. His other strength politically would be his hardline stance on Iraq, but Bush owns that issue. He can't really run by demonizing Bush as being some sort of right-wing fanatic, because Bush has managed to avoid being painted as such with his New Tone.

Ultimately, regardless of what party he's in, McCain needs Bush to fail to have any future at all, and right now Bush is stronger than he's ever been. Barring a complete Bush/Republican debacle in the next 12 months, I think McCain stays put and shelves his dream of being president.
31 posted on 11/12/2002 7:19:39 AM PST by Media Insurgent
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To: MattinNJ
Chaffee won't switch because of what is about to happen to Jeffords.

From Saturday Night Live (Chris Parnell as Bush): "And to Senator Jeffords, I say welcome to Hell."

32 posted on 11/12/2002 7:20:36 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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To: dark_lord
While your observations are substantially correct, they do miss one key in McCain's motivation; he wants to be President. Because of that he has to do something that seperates him from the rest of the Senate and truly reinforces the image he's created.

Byrd and the rest may want to be President, but they have no illusions that they can be President.
33 posted on 11/12/2002 7:21:41 AM PST by sharktrager
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To: TommyDale
In the long run, any more jumping senators would kill the Democrats. Jumpin' Jim Jeffords was acceptable to the public because he was, in effect, breaking a tie created by the election (a 50-50 senate and a VP chosen by a the down-to-the-wire 2000 presidential election). Attempting such a maneuver now to reverse the outcome of the election (on top of all the other shenanigans) would cement the Democrats' reputation as the party that has to resort to backroom chicanery because it can't attract the support of the people.
34 posted on 11/12/2002 7:33:36 AM PST by steve-b
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To: meandog
Dream on far right fellow FReepers...McCain isn't going anywhere until he finishing REFORMING the Grand Old Party from the likes of the McConnells and Lotts that are a major reason that repugnant Dummycraps like Beelzebubba and Hildabeaste win every 16 years or so...

Interesting comment. What do you mean by reform? And what does it have to do with McCain, McConnel and Lott?

35 posted on 11/12/2002 7:33:45 AM PST by SBprone
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To: GraniteStateConservative
A great line.
My own thought is, Jeffords should pick up his Chinese laundry and leave town.
36 posted on 11/12/2002 7:41:15 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Always A Marine
A politician's word is like Scripture...

LOL. My thought exactly. Democrats will do anything to keep the power to appoint judges, which is how they achieve their totalitarian goals.

37 posted on 11/12/2002 8:15:10 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: San Jacinto
The reason that a McCain & Chaffee joint defection is not going to happen is that in 2004, there will almost certainly be more Republican pickups in the Senate. The Republicans have only 12 seats up, and of those Alaska, Alabama, Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, New Hampshire, Ohio, Oklahoma, Utah, and South Carolina all are all looking like unlikely places for Democrats to win. And there are other states where the state has been going Republican lately where the Republicans are running an incumbent, such as Kentucky and Missouri, and other states where they may be running an entrenched incumbent, such as Pennsylvania.

Almost all of the contests will be in seats held by Democrats. Jumping ship would be a one way ticket to Jeffordsville.

38 posted on 11/12/2002 8:20:54 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: SBprone
Interesting comment. What do you mean by reform? And what does it have to do with McCain, McConnel and Lott?

Getting SPECIAL INTERESTS and their MONEY out of politics...IOW, say goodbye to NAMBLA, ARAL, NOW, etc.

39 posted on 11/12/2002 8:40:12 AM PST by meandog
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To: William McKinley
You're logic certainly applies to Chaffee. There is no logic that applies to McCain. But of course, McCain can't go without Chafee, and that's assuming Landrieu and Johnson, as well.
40 posted on 11/12/2002 9:08:34 AM PST by San Jacinto
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