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ANDREW SULLIVAN: Bush wins because people know what he stands for
The Sunday Times ^ | November 10, 2002 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 11/10/2002 12:40:21 AM PST by MadIvan

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Not bad from Andrew. It's been a very good week for the President.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 11/10/2002 12:40:21 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: BigWaveBetty; widgysoft; Da_Shrimp; BlueAngel; JeanS; schmelvin; MJY1288; terilyn; Ryle; ...
Bump!
2 posted on 11/10/2002 12:40:38 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
That's good!
3 posted on 11/10/2002 12:48:24 AM PST by Southack
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To: MadIvan
They will continue to "mis-underestimate" him, at their own peril. Honesty is something the democrats are not used to dealing with :-)
4 posted on 11/10/2002 12:49:16 AM PST by MJY1288
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To: MadIvan
It's been a good week for America, and the future of us all.
5 posted on 11/10/2002 12:52:56 AM PST by jwfiv
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To: MadIvan
It’s the American people’s war. And they intend to win it.

Good article. Thanx for posting.

6 posted on 11/10/2002 12:53:55 AM PST by alaskanfan
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To: MadIvan
Dear Rapist and former impeached Commander in chief,

Eat your heart out!


7 posted on 11/10/2002 1:07:28 AM PST by Sir Montague's devastating wit
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To: MadIvan
Americans are not without their worries about the war; they are not gung ho warriors. But they grasp that we live in a new and dangerous world and they trust this president to defend them.

Underlying everything in the past 14 months is this fact. The Demodogs refuse to acknowledge this, but We The People actually trust President Bush to lead. His integrity is the paramount quality, and after x42, is starkly visible.

8 posted on 11/10/2002 1:15:13 AM PST by AFPhys
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To: MadIvan
I like Andrew, but he ALWAYS mentions "gay".
9 posted on 11/10/2002 1:29:29 AM PST by Ann Archy
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To: Darius649
ping
10 posted on 11/10/2002 1:50:50 AM PST by chasio649
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To: MadIvan
the national vote tallies show a 53-47% split favouring his Republican party.
For an "evenly split country," I'd say that's not too shabby.

It doesn't hurt if the advantage shows up in the right states, of course . . . how about in Louisiana, for instance?! We could use a Republican senator come the runoff . . .


11 posted on 11/10/2002 2:01:02 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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"I like Andrew, but he ALWAYS mentions "gay".

Bingo. Saved me a longer post.

12 posted on 11/10/2002 2:03:19 AM PST by Neanderthal
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To: MadIvan; mhking
his subtle outreach on race both in backing popular policies among African-Americans, such as school vouchers, and appointing some of the most high-profile black officials in American history. One reason the Democrats lost was that their core support of black voters didn’t show up. They didn’t respond to the alarms that liberal Democrats have sounded about nefarious racist Republicans. Bush is one reason, perhaps the only reason, they don’t buy it.
Recall the convention, with the journalists carping about the black performers entertaining the crowd? Bush is gradually eroding the "race card" . . .

"Privatization of Social Security" would among other things give people who have historically shorter life expectancy a little better break (It is also the only way to make an effective Social Security Trust Fund, not the sham in which the government presently writes IOUs to itself and calls that "saving").


13 posted on 11/10/2002 2:14:21 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: MadIvan
Watched Andrew Sullivan and Christopher Hitchins on C-Span the other day and they were more pro-American than the most moderate Democrat! They discussed Iraq in clear terms and admonished those college students who asked them questions and had obviously not done their homework. Bless them both.
14 posted on 11/10/2002 3:48:14 AM PST by Peach
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Do you ever sleep?
15 posted on 11/10/2002 4:38:40 AM PST by looney tune
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To: MadIvan
Bush says not to 'gloat'.

Why the hell not ? It was a massacre and the Democrats are humiliated. Republicans can't take advantage of this moment to remind voters of the abject failure of socialist doctrine ?

If not now, when ? The time is long gone when acting the 'gentlemen' scores points with an otherwise cynical populace of Survivor fans.

Republicans have successfully co-opted the Democrats' strategies, but will never understand their tactics.


BUMP

16 posted on 11/10/2002 5:01:00 AM PST by tm22721
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To: MadIvan
A fine and insightful article from the always worthwhile Andrew Sullivan, but the sense of it disturbs me nonetheless.

I've come to like President Bush very much. I trust both his character and the judgment of his Administration in most things -- not because he and they are always right, but because I sense an underlying sober honesty about them. They will recognize and correct their mistakes. That's a paramount virtue in dealing with the world around us.

But this business of treating the victories of particular Senatorial candidates as wins for Bush has some disturbing implications, and they ought to be explored.

Is the most important thing about a Senatorial candidate his party alignment? Does the GOP only nominate persons who are fit for public office, or at any rate more fit than their opponents?

Inasmuch as a Senator is supposed to represent his state's interests -- the original design was to have the state legislatures choose Senators directly, without recourse to a popular vote, a scheme I'd like to see restored -- just how appropriate is it for the President, a national official, to stump for any of them? Doesn't that suggest that one of the components of federalism has been short-circuited?

Yes, yes, I know about Democratic obstructionism in the Senate these past two years, and I agree that it's been tawdry and deplorable. I'm glad -- so far -- that the GOP has regained a Senate majority. But I profoundly hope that the "federalization" of the Senatorial campaign hasn't saddled anyone with a Senator of less-than-sterling character, or less-than-adequate understanding of (and fidelity to) Constitutional principles. One of the reasons George Washington condemned "factions" and political parties was exactly that sort of result: the promotion of "our people" over the interests and well-being of the Republic.

Judge them on their records and their performance when trusted with power, please. Don't judge them by their hairdos, their lapel buttons, or their high-profile endorsements. That way lies God knows what.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
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17 posted on 11/10/2002 5:09:32 AM PST by fporretto
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To: MadIvan
The president’s main temptation now is hubris. Republicans, now in the majority in both houses of Congress, are already talking about banning partial birth abortion, corporate tax breaks, and the like. Bush should restrain them

The Republican Party has to get abortion-loving Dems. on the defensive in *all* races, and the partial birth abortion issue is just the one to do it. There is at least an 80/20 divide on this issue, and 80% of the country is with us.

Living in New York, I can't tell you how often I heard commercials that Forrester and other candidates were "extreme" on abortion. Excuse me, but it is the candidate whose position is supported by 20% of the electorate who is extreme!

The Republicans need to educate the public as to what the "extremist" Democrats support -- federal funding of abortion for any reason at any time in the pregnancy, taking minors over state lines without parental permission for abortions, covering up statutory rapes in order to perform abortions on minors.

Remember the hideous chain dragging ad that played in the Texas market of James Byrd's daughter practically accusing then Governor Bush of murder? Well, I have now heard the Republican equivalent. I don't know how many markets it played in but it accused the Democratic candidates of murdering black babies since 42% of abortions are performed on black women and the Democratic Party promotes this. (Not that I think President Bush had anything to do with this ad, but it just shows what an effective argument we can muster against abortion -- and how we can divide the constituency that Dems. take for granted -- if we are not too lily livered to do it.)

We now have a President who is not afraid to play hardball against his ruthless, murderous opponents.

In his favor, he is also willing to bide his time. When the time is right, President Bush will execute his plan to put the Democrats on the defensive re: the life issue -- as they should be -- so that the American public can see very clearly just who the "extremists" are.

Sullivan is usually right, but despite his protestations, he still continues to "misunderestimate" the (in John Huang 2's words) "el hombre de Texas."

18 posted on 11/10/2002 5:11:53 AM PST by HateBill
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To: MadIvan
Good one, Ivan! Thank you!
19 posted on 11/10/2002 6:02:56 AM PST by Amelia
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I have no problem if people still need to think Bush is a dolt.May he continue to get misunderestimated victory after victory.The same fate befell Ronald Reagan, too ;-)

It has more to with soothing our egos, than Bush's, to hear kind words about a President we admire and trust.It doesn't matter at all.All that matters is that Bush be Bush.
20 posted on 11/10/2002 6:14:46 AM PST by habs4ever
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