John Muhammad flew to Antigua August 2002 on fake ID

The Jamaica Observer ^ | various dates | various publications

[Travis McGee]

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[FITZ]

Immigration law says stowaway aliens are to be deported immediately, but this pair was released and given November 2002 deportation hearing dates, even though they are both said to be living in in homeless shelters and were described as likely to abscond.

I wonder how the families of the innocent murdered feel about these criminals being allowed to stay. It's not like they were here in this country to work hard, they were low-lives allowed to stay when they should have been sent back.

[cookcounty]

Interesting enough to bump.

[Sacajaweau]

Excellent. Thank you.

Just little comments.

Can we track Richard Reid further?? Would love to catch him in Florida or Antiqua at the same time as the 9-11 creeps and/or these guys. Watching these two guys run all over the place gives me the same impression as the Atta gang AND the anthrax scenario.

The Sept 21 killing implicates a third party.

These two spent a lot of time with his relatives. Wonder if he was passing them some bucks?? Too many visits with too many relatives doesn't make them look very innocent to me. (Regardless of what they are saying.)

[Sacajaweau]

No doubt the guy was into Islam from various witnesses. Sure hope someone has some of their literature (or it's in their car).

Malvo is said to have visited libraries. Was he using them for chats?? Didn't Atta use libraries??

[Plutarch]

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[bvw]

Osbourne interviewed Friday by Trentonian reporters. The 26 year old Jamacian is a singer and loves music.

Osbourne said his music was not exploitative. "It's an inspiration from God," he said. "I don't abuse the system."

Hmmm ... his music is "not exploitive" and "don't abuse the system" yet is inspired by God. What kind of music could that be?

[joesnuffy]

Racist Liar thief rapist murderer child spouse abuser homosexual bully dead beat dad violent ill tempered dangerous malingerer goldbrick meanspirited backstabbing low life insane extortionist devout muslim...

[bvw]

That's a mouthful but even then not near a full list.

[Eva]

Great job of putting this time line together!

[Grampa Dave]

This gets better all along.

You have the basis for a great spy type novel based on your John Muhammud time lines.

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for the ping!

This gets better each day re going back on his trail.

I get the feeling that this is only the tip of the iceberg of the real story behind the mass murderer John Muhammud!

[LoneRangerMassachusetts]

Dec 19 2001 - Malvo and mother were arrested by INS in Washington state, and detained for one month after the school reported them for not delivering transcripts. A different report says the mother raised a stink when she arrived in Washington state, and thats how the INS got involved.

Immigration law says stowaway aliens are to be deported immediately, but this pair was released and given November 2002 deportation hearing dates, even though they are both said to be living in in homeless shelters and were described as likely to abscond. Part of the reason is the border patrol supposedly learned these two were smuggled into this country by Muhammad, and that gives the illegals more rights than a stowaway.

Muhammad appeared dangerously delusional according to his cousin - Anderson, and she is eventually showed that his duffel bag contained a rifle and ammunition. She asks him to leave the next day, but agrees to hold his padlocked duffel bag for safekeeping for a week.

I wonder how many immigration lawyers are involved here. Why can’t these predators be sued by the families of the dead? Why can’t these b@st@rds be publicly identified as public enemies who profit as public defenders with our tax money letting loose criminals in our society? Don’t ask your politicians for help because they are mostly predatory lawyers. It’s going to take mobs to weed these b@st@ards out. We need photographs and stories circulating the Internet identifying these b@st@rds.

[blam]

This is real good for an engineer. <>

[afraidfortherepublic]

Wow! Are the authorities arware of all this?

[Sacajaweau]

This is real good for an engineer!!

You forgot to mention a "FLORIDA" engineer.

It's like a dream!!

I guess there's exceptions to everything.

[aristeides]

No doubt the guy was into Islam from various witnesses.

Muhammad drank beer in the mornings at a bar in Bellingham (and sometimes added whiskey). At one sports bar in Montgomery County, MD, he not only ordered a beer for himself, he tried to order a beer for Malvo.

I wonder how serious a Moslem he was.

[aristeides]

Have you noticed the Washington Post's reports that the staff at the YMCA in Silver Spring, MD saw Muhammad and Malvo work out several times in late August and early September? Have you noticed the report in last Sunday's Washington Post that a woman in Silver Spring observed the two in their dark car driving slowly along her block in late September, after the heat broke? You might want to add those things to your chronology.

[Consort]

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