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I'm going to pay college tuition for three kids for this crap?
1 posted on 11/09/2002 12:28:24 AM PST by doulau
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To: doulau
It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag."

God bless our soldiers, airmen, and sailors.

2 posted on 11/09/2002 12:37:16 AM PST by patriciaruth
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To: doulau
Captain Borders, and the Air Force, was way too accomodating, way too accepting, of an "apology" from Collaborating sewage.
3 posted on 11/09/2002 12:39:08 AM PST by JoJo Gunn
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I'm going to pay college tuition for three kids for this crap?

I'd pass on Saint Xavier if I were you.

Try Bob Jones University.

That was a sort of joke, but actually sort of serious. I hope some FReepers can give you some leads on decent American and/or Christian colleges or universities that don't preach anti-American hatred.

4 posted on 11/09/2002 12:40:40 AM PST by patriciaruth
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To: doulau
I'm curious why the professor changed his tune!
5 posted on 11/09/2002 12:40:42 AM PST by Coeur de Lion
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Please post this bastards's email/contact information so we can flood him and his university with the same hateful messages that he sent to one of our soldiers. The treatment that this cadet received was disgraceful. What makes it worse is that tax dollars are allowing this professor to spew this leftist garbage. And this cadet may someday put his life on the line to defend this clown's "right" to trash the United States. Only in America!
7 posted on 11/09/2002 12:44:09 AM PST by ctnoell
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You can tell by the professors tepid reply that he still doesn't get it! He is ONLY embarrassed because his e-mail became known.

It no longer was a "private" reply when he signed it Professor from that University!!!!

Our Colleges and Universities are full of these vacuous morons. Think about that when you write your next tuition check.

8 posted on 11/09/2002 12:44:12 AM PST by stlrocket
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I would say that commrade kirstein is unworthy to draw a breath of Clean Free Air in this Wonderful Country. What a sorry Bastard.
9 posted on 11/09/2002 12:45:07 AM PST by Pompah
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There is something screwy about this article. The article is by Peter Kirstein, and he talks about the email exchanges as though he doesn't know the professor in question, BUT

the professor in question is labeled as Professor Peter Kirstein.

HUH???

11 posted on 11/09/2002 12:54:42 AM PST by patriciaruth
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Learn more, including pictures at:


http://www.sxu.edu/academ/artsci/history/pkirstein/

kirstein@sxu.edu
13 posted on 11/09/2002 12:58:41 AM PST by Tall_Texan
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My reply sent this morning...

Dear Sir;

Yes I can hear you now. "Oh God hear we go again, another jingoistic non thinking idiot" responding to an internet story. Tough. I looked up your email and since it is legitimate and the story verified, let me lay a few of my own thoughts upon you.

How dare you? Just who in the hell do you think you are? What are your credentials to judge someone who chooses a profession that would preserve and enable you the right to espouse your dribble on the young minds of America. It is obvious you have served nothing but yourself over the years sir. You know nothing of service to your country. Except possibly lip service. You obviously have never have served or payed the ultimate sacrifice. Let me educate you for a change. It's called service to your country sir. Something you obviously are a stranger to. Something you, as a supposed educator are unqualified to teach to the young minds of America today.

I served with men who did understand this sir. Vietnam. Remember that little song and dance? I won't bore you with my where and why. You wouldn't have a clue. But we do. We were there. Better men than you died in my arms for a nation that wanted the opportunity to preserve their freedom of speech you ignorantly and blatantly take for granted. You obviously don't know the difference. But whether you like it or not, we who did serve still consider it a noble cause 30 years later. My blood brothers who lay there still, they thought it honorable to fight for an oppressed people. They thought it honorable to fight and give a people the right to speak as you have the freedom to repulse Cadet Kurpeil.

Cadet Robert Kurpeil was proud enough of himself, of his country, and yes, even YOU to ask you for your help. And assuming that he full well knew of your political affiliations and leanings, he still considered you enough of a fellow American to ask you to contribute and help with his education. And you responded like a true socialist marxist self centered spoiled pig. What an ass. You and your kind today infuriate me sir. Your ignorance of today's world threats and dangers, your lack of respect and understanding of men who died to preserve your rights, OUR rights, your lack of understanding of how bitterly and costly it was earned over the years by men who loved our nation and what our Constitution stands for; is your shame. A young mind who wished to ask your help was flagrantly insulted by a childish and boorish coward with his own selfish ideals and behaviour.

You are a disgrace to the eductaion system in America. You are a disgrace to our country. Regardless of your apology to Cadet Kurpeil.

22 posted on 11/09/2002 1:35:28 AM PST by ProudEagle
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Words fail me. If I were on the Board of Trustees of St. X and took my responsibilities seriously, I would insist on the most severe censure of this "educator" or, if such response was not immediatley forthcoming, resign my position post haste. Pacifism is fine; it is the intolerant, disrespectful and abusive tone of that e-mail that disqualifies this "professor" from being a representative of the school and calls into question whether he is even capable of moderating an exchange of ideas in a classroom setting.

I intend to communicate with each of the trustees (check the link above to the St. X website, where the Board of Trustees is listed) and express my incredulity that such conduct by a sitting professor could be punished in any manner short of dismissal. If, as I suspect, the school's response was limited to a written reprimand and a demand for that less-than-heartfelt "apology", I will make it my business to make sure parochial schools that feed St. X are made (and kept) aware of this episode.

Simply incredible.

30 posted on 11/09/2002 2:17:52 AM PST by Zebra
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I've been working on an idea for college and university oversight. It simply informs parents and potential students in a 'just the facts' manner. It would be paid for by the colleges and universities. I'll ping you later. FReegards....
32 posted on 11/09/2002 3:22:32 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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Self serving apologies always ring hollow and rarely fool anyone but the fool. As someone else noted the only thing this jerk is sorry about is the fact that now everyone knows what a creep he is.

And what is it about these people when it comes to skin color. The crack about killing non-white people is ridiculous, as if there were some agenda.

33 posted on 11/09/2002 3:48:05 AM PST by amstaff1
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That professor isn't too bright is he? You don't "bomb with AAA". Maybe before spewing his leftest hate he should attempt to learn what he is talking about first.....
36 posted on 11/09/2002 4:25:32 AM PST by The Toad
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Mailto:kirstein@sxu.edu
From: me, just now

Subject: Harms way

Sir,
I would put forth that you are better served by 1.5 million of your fellow Americans volunteering to go into harms way on your behalf than not. In the best interest of the future, please tell your wife at dinner tonight you would like to spend more time with her and the kids, and resign.

With Honor,

37 posted on 11/09/2002 4:27:52 AM PST by ChadGore
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Additional comments at: hate-filled and hatemail
41 posted on 11/09/2002 7:39:07 AM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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As one who believes in non-violence and the avoidance of conflict,

He's like so many that believe that self defense is perpetrating violence. Hell, everybody (except some muslims) believes in non-violence and avoidance of conflict.... but not at the expense of further violence. Feed the alligator hors d'ouvres and he'll eat you last.

48 posted on 11/10/2002 12:07:41 PM PST by Principled
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" I'm going to pay college tuition for three kids for this crap?"

We got lucky. We encourged our girls to get higher education but they were astute enough to choose not to go. We worried about how they would be able to support themselves in todays world (We fell for the liberal-media claptrap about education). However they are doing quite well on proven ability based on past performance. One hires college graduates to work for her but but claims that the quality is very poor. The other has gone into business for herself. Sure did save us a lot of money and now we're thinking of retireing early.

53 posted on 11/10/2002 12:30:10 PM PST by fella
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"Every once in a while a man comes along who not only asks to be pounded into the ground, down right begs for it. It is every mans duty to accommodate him for one day it may be him that is in desperate need."


56 posted on 11/10/2002 12:50:13 PM PST by VetoBill
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What a piece of S**t.

Happy birthday Marine Corps.

Ya know the S.O.B. professor only wrote the letter of apology just to save his own ass and to get 'tenure'.

I just returned from a Vetrans Day observance where 2 of the fellas from "BAND OF BROTHERS", Ed 'Babe' Hefron and 'Wild' Bill Guarnere were the guest speakers. Along with them were honored 22 other vetrans whose boots this professor isn't worthy to be stomped under.

To think that their buddies gave their lives so 'scholars' can teach real history to our sons and daughters. He is lucky that the whole 'Band of Brothers', our men and women in uniform, have defeated people like Hitler and Stalin. For where would a man of his caliber be? In a mass grave lost to history.

I'm an historian myself, I hope all ya'll realise that a jackass like that doesn't represent us all.

How true we owe all our liberties on what thse men did and others like the cadet are doing. GOD bless and keep all our sons and daughters, and all those who fight for freedom.

And most of all GOD BLESS AMERICA!
58 posted on 11/10/2002 12:54:58 PM PST by uncbuck
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