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104 posted on 11/15/2002 4:37:31 PM PST by timestax
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105 posted on 11/18/2002 6:50:00 PM PST by timestax
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Smith Table for Matches for Air India Flight 182, Pan Am Flight 103, United Airlines Flight 811, Trans World Airlines Flight 800, and China Airlines Flight 611

Evidence

AI 182

(Forward Cargo Door)

PA103

(Forward Cargo Door)

UAL 811

(Forward Cargo Door)

TWA 800

(Forward Cargo Door)

China Airlines Flight 611

(Aft Cargo Door)

Boeing 747 Yes Yes Yes Yes  Yes
Early model -100 or -200  Yes Yes Yes Yes  Yes 
Overpressure relief door(s) in forward cargo door open/jammed Maybe Yes Yes Yes  Missing in Aft Cargo Door
Sudden airframe breakup in flight (partial or total) Yes Yes Yes Yes  Yes 
Breakup occurs amidships Yes Yes Yes Yes No, aft of wing. 
High flight time (over 55,000 flight hours) No Yes Yes Yes  Yes 
Aged airframe (over 18 years of service) No Yes Yes Yes  Yes 
Previous maintenance problems with forward cargo door Yes Maybe Yes Maybe Unknown 
Initial event within an hour after takeoff No Yes Yes Yes   Yes
Initial event at about 300 knots while proceeding normally in all parameters Yes Yes Yes Yes  Yes 
Initial event has unusual radar contacts Maybe Yes Yes Yes   Yes
Initial event involves hull rupture in or near forward cargo door area Yes Yes Yes Yes  In or near aft cargo door
Initial event starts with sudden sound Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes 
Initial event sound is loud Yes Yes Yes Yes No 
Initial event sound is audible to humans Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes 
Initial event followed immediately by abrupt power cut to data recorder Yes Yes Yes Yes No, FDR cut first, then CVR power
Initial event sound matched to explosion of bomb sound No No No No No 
  AI 182 PA103 UAL 811 TWA 800 China Airlines Flight 611
Initial event sound matched to explosive decompression sound in wide body airliner Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes, Rapid Decompression 
Torn off skin on fuselage above forward cargo door area Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes for aft door 
Unusual paint smears on and above forward cargo door Maybe Maybe Yes Yes Unknown 
Evidence of explosion in forward cargo compartment Yes Yes Yes Yes Unknown in aft 
Foreign object damage to engine or cowling of engine number three Yes Yes Yes Yes Unknown 
Fire/soot in engine number three

Maybe

Yes

Yes

Yes

  Unknown
Foreign object damage to engine or cowling of engine number four

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

 Unknown
Right wing leading edge damaged in flight Yes Maybe Yes Maybe Unknown 
Vertical stabilizer damaged in flight Yes Yes Yes Maybe Yes 
  AI 182 PA103 UAL 811 TWA 800 China Airlines Flight 611 
Right horizontal stabilizer damaged in flight

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

 Unknown
More severe inflight damage on starboard side than port side

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

 Unknown
Port side relatively undamaged by inflight debris

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

 Unknown
Vertical fuselage tear lines just aft or forward of the forward cargo door

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

 Yes for aft cargo door
Fracture/tear/rupture at a midspan latch of forward cargo door

Maybe

Yes

Yes

Yes

 Unknown
Midspan latching status of forward cargo door reported as latched

No

No

No

No

 Unknown
Airworthiness Directive 88-12-04 implemented (stronger lock sectors)

No

No

No

Yes

 Unknown
Outwardly peeled skin on upper forward fuselage

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

 Unknown
Rectangular shape of shattered area around forward cargo door

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

 Unknown
Forward cargo door fractured in two longitudinally

Yes

Yes

Yes

Maybe

 Yes for aft cargo door
Status of aft cargo door as intact and latched Yes Yes Yes Maybe No 
  AI 182 PA103 UAL 811 TWA 800 China Airlines Flight 611 
Passengers suffered decompression type injuries Yes Yes Yes Yes Unknown 
At least nine missing and never recovered passenger bodies Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes 
Wreckage debris field in two main areas, forward and aft sections of aircraft

Yes

Yes

No

Yes

 Yes
Initial official opinion of probable cause as bomb explosion.

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

 No and considered
Initial official determination modified from bomb explosion

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

 No
  AI 182 PA103 UAL 811 TWA 800 China Airlines Flight 611 
Structural failure considered for probable cause

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

  Yes
Inadvertently opened forward cargo door considered for probable cause

Yes

No

Yes

Yes

 Yes for aft cargo door
Official probable cause as bomb explosion

Yes

Yes

 No

No

 Unknown
Official probable cause as 'improvised explosive device'

No

Yes

No

No

 Unknown
Official probable cause as explosion by unstated cause

Yes

No

No

No

 Unknown
Official probable cause as explosion in center fuel tank with unknown ignition source No No No Yes Unknown 
Official probable cause as improper latching of forward cargo door No No Yes No Unknown 
Official probable cause as switch /wiring inadvertently opening forward cargo door

No

No

Yes

No

 Unknown
Significant Direct and Tangible Evidence Obtained for Four B747 Breakups in Flight

AI 182

PA103

UAL 811

TWA 800

 China Airlines Flight 611
   

111 posted on 01/28/2003 7:09:46 PM PST by _Jim
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