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Ann Coulter: Party of Adultery and Abortion Takes A Hit
Human Events ^ | 11/8/02 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 11/08/2002 3:06:20 PM PST by Jean S

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To: ravinson
Little rav man, your hate is showing, Ann has credentials I'm sure you could only dream of having. And I predicted the GOP would take the senate, the surprise was they took a lot more than I could have dreamed of. Must suck to be you !
121 posted on 11/08/2002 6:30:30 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: JeanS
Bump for tomorrow........

Eaker

122 posted on 11/08/2002 6:31:57 PM PST by Eaker
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To: ChadGore
"Today's democrat party doesn't enjoy majority leadership at either the state or federal level."

Thanks, Billy and Hilly!!

123 posted on 11/08/2002 6:32:51 PM PST by blam
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To: ravinson
No, no, pal, we're really for choice, we're gay (especially after a coupla pints,) and to top it off, we're progressive too! Really! Who, among us FReepers, would say one shouldn't have a choice when it comes to turning left or right, when it comes to having a pizza with or without anchovies, or when it comes to choosing a doctor to perform a surgery. (Do you need more examples? Just holler!) And, who among us would say that he or she is against progress?

Now that we agree, let's sum it all up:

FReepers are for choice, they are gay and they are progressive!


124 posted on 11/08/2002 6:36:30 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Brilliant.
125 posted on 11/08/2002 6:40:48 PM PST by diode
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To: ravinson
Hatch, an adulterer? Where did you get that infamous lie? The RATS? He is not, never has been and will never be an adulterer. If he had committed adultery, he would never have been elected or if he were practicing adultery now would he ever continue as a Senator from the State of Utah.
126 posted on 11/08/2002 6:43:05 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: Cicero; ravinson
It was pro-choice but the anti abortion people like myself, choose to call it what it is PRO ABORTION. But the pro-abortion people don't like the word ABORTION, which is exactly what it is so THEY would rather call it pro choice. It's more politcally correct and it doesn't give away what the actual choice is about.

ABORTION a bad word even to abortionists.

127 posted on 11/08/2002 6:45:33 PM PST by GUIDO
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To: ravinson
I, and I would venture to assume, most women are deeply ambivalent about the "right" to obtain an abortion.Even the pro-life movement makes exception for rape victims, and I find that a little odd,given their stance but..the Democrats and the outdated NOW leftwingers have staked their dying gasps for power on this issue.

As a woman, I am heartily sick of the litmus test being whether or not I "approve" of abortion. I imagine many minorities are also feeling sick of being judged by the color of their skin, and lumped into some imaginary grouping based solely on that criteria.

As a woman who has experienced more than my fair share of "spontaneous abortions", I would never knowingly "choose" to inflict upon myself, or anyone else, that particular grief.

Ann Coulter is correct in this article.The Democrats are indeed the Abortion party.Abortion "right" is the only issue they have to keep uneducated women on their plantation.I want this issue gone.I do not believe anyone should be able to "choose" to terminate a second or third trimester pregnacy, based solely on personal convenience.There are valid reasons a woman must undergo a medically induced abortion.I dont think the majority of women view abortion as a viable birth controll method.

I think the abortion "issue" is one manufactured by controlling socialist elements of the Democrat party.The fear factor.The controll factor.The Taliban Democrat factor.

Roe v Wade only provided legallity for individual patient/doctor choice of treatment options. Nothing in that ruling mandated abortion on demand.

I truly want politicians to get out of my womb.I think minority races also want everyone to get out of their skin color.How can we ever achieve true equality, when a powerfull pollitical party (Democrat) bases their power on lies and fear?

128 posted on 11/08/2002 6:46:14 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: PMCarey
I think that the difference is adultery is not a life or death issue.

That's no reason to resort to hyperbole to oppose abortion. (In fact, hyperbole should be even less necessary.) Moreover, suppose that a woman who finds out her husband is committing adultery becomes despondent and kills herself. Would you have the law treat her husband as a murderer?

If I believe that abortion is a taking of human life, then it shouldn't make any difference whether that life happens to be my own child or yours.

If anti-abortion people could prove that abortion is the taking of a "human" life, then they would have no need to resort to hyperbole. (Moreover, I could make a strong case that there is nothing wrong with valuing the lives of your own children more than those of anyone else.)

In the same vein, a southern before the Civil War would argue that he (or she) is simply pro-choice. Stephen Douglas certainly made that argument to Lincoln in the Lincoln/Douglas debates. How much respect would such a position get today when slavery is universally viewed as an evil?

I certainly respect Antebellum Southerners who thought slavery was wrong but should be legal more than I respect those who held slaves and claimed that it was part of God's plan for negroes. Lincoln, for example, was not an abolitionist when he first became President but rather thought that slavery should be ended by (a) appealing to what he thought were the Jeffersonian instincts of most Southerners and (b) compensating slaveholders for giving up slavery. It was only when he realized that slaveholders would fight to the death to preserve slavery that he became an abolitionist.

Of course, a legal choice to enslave is the opposite of a legal choice to abort. The modern slaveholders are the anti-abortion zealots who want to maintain pregnant women in bondage until they deliver a baby.

Calling it "pro-choice" is not a philosophical decision, but a marketing decision...

On the contrary, the "pro-choice" label is accurate for people who do not want the state to prohibit abortion and that's why it infuriates the anti-abortion zealots. On the other hand, the "pro-life" label anti-abortion zealots use is false advertising (unless the "pro-lifers" are in favor of women having as many babies as possible even if that means they have to be raped and held in bondage throughout their fertile years).

Notice that politicians will invariably say "I want to preserve a woman's right to choose", but they never explicitly say choose what.

Do you really think anyone doesn't know what choice they are talking about? If I asked a conservative office seeker "Do you believe that the state should permit people to choose to smoke so many cigarettes that they die of lung cancer or emphysema", you would expect him to say "Yes, I think the state should permit people to choose to smoke so many cigarettes that they die of lung cancer or emphysema"? There is a huge difference between false advertising and effective true advertising.

129 posted on 11/08/2002 7:08:45 PM PST by ravinson
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To: PsyOp
"Correction: the people of Northern California spit in God's face.

Well said! I live in Orange County, and this a very conservative county. I think Simon could have pulled it off if he had Bush backing him a little more out here. I can't begin to guess why he didn't. He gave a hellava' fight though.
130 posted on 11/08/2002 7:12:13 PM PST by dagoofyfoot
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To: Lizard_King
Well stated Lizard King, those all-too-numerous anti-libertarian FR people are strange.
131 posted on 11/08/2002 7:15:17 PM PST by ravinson
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To: JeanS
Bump for Ann.
132 posted on 11/08/2002 7:16:56 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Cymbaline
If you think Ann (or any other conservative) isn't concerned with Clinton's lying to the American people you're mistaken.

I don't think that and I didn't say that, but as in this column, Coulter harps way too much on the adultery and thereby hurts the Republican/conservative cause.

133 posted on 11/08/2002 7:20:54 PM PST by ravinson
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To: Enterprise
I have no doubt she'll be pellucid on Pelosi!
134 posted on 11/08/2002 7:22:42 PM PST by 185JHP
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To: ravinson
Of course, to be pro-choice is to be pro-abortion. The person who is pro-choice is opting for the death of human life being carried within a woman's womb. The "choice" is to bring forth life or to abort; to abort is to put to death.
Have you ever heard of anyone who is "pro-choice" be "pro-life?" Anyone who talks about "choice" is talking about choosing to deny life to a new baby.

135 posted on 11/08/2002 7:23:06 PM PST by Dusty Rose
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To: uncbuck
abortion is evil.

Even if you could prove that, it wouldn't justify the hyperbole of Ann Coulter and the other anti-abortion zealots. I fact, as I have stated, if you could prove that you would have no need for hyperbole.

136 posted on 11/08/2002 7:24:32 PM PST by ravinson
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To: ravinson
If anti-abortion people could prove that abortion is the taking of a "human" life, then they would have no need to resort to hyperbole.

You've got to be kidding. Here's a proof for you. Examine the DNA of an aborted baby and the DNA of a baby the same age born prematurely.

Then examine your own DNA. You will be surprised to find that all three of you belong to the species homo sapiens, the definition of human.

137 posted on 11/08/2002 7:25:21 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: uncbuck
Realise that the abortion issue ultimately comes down to belief in the soul.

Not really. I believe in a soul but also believe that there is pretty strong evidence suggesting that the soul does not enter the fetus until shortly before birth.

138 posted on 11/08/2002 7:26:45 PM PST by ravinson
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To: ravinson
Democrat = The Abortion Party
139 posted on 11/08/2002 7:27:18 PM PST by TigersEye
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To: ravinson
Orin Hatch???? Oh do tell, please. Your statement about Pubbies being better at hiding it is ludicrous.
140 posted on 11/08/2002 7:28:01 PM PST by ladyinred
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