[ravinson]

Realise that the abortion issue ultimately comes down to belief in the soul.

Not really. I believe in a soul but also believe that there is pretty strong evidence suggesting that the soul does not enter the fetus until shortly before birth.

[Revolting cat!]

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[MHGinTN]

Not really. I believe in a soul but also believe that there is pretty strong evidence suggesting that the soul does not enter the fetus until shortly before birth. 138 posted by ravinson Hey, that's something to give thanks for ... you were arguing that a prenatal doesn't become human until birth, not too long ago. I'll have to keep prayin' for ya, rav, since something's changing there!

[meat skinner]

Sorry to interrupt, could you cite "strong evidence" that the soul doesn't enter until shortly before birth? I'm intrigued, as I am with uncbuck's assertion that we must assume that it (soul)enters at conception.

[uncbuck]

Could you show me that evidence?
Humanist and other religious would say, DNA defines a person phisically, how about mentally/emotionally? Isn't the DNA stem defined at conception?
Isn't that a person at conception than?