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Chief Moose Cost Lives
WorldNetDaily ^ | 11-08-02 | Paul Sperry

Posted on 11/08/2002 2:08:54 AM PST by rambo316

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To: Grampa Dave
Political Correctness kills.

You bet it does. Every single day. And that's all this boils down to, is the support of someone due only because it's politically correct.

81 posted on 11/08/2002 8:18:34 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: conservativefromGa
White MD women deserted KKT for Ehrlich in Tuesday's election.
82 posted on 11/08/2002 8:22:52 AM PST by aristeides
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To: dirtboy
"But IMO the buck stops with this Moose."

Were they following each other in the forest?
83 posted on 11/08/2002 8:22:52 AM PST by M. Peach
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To: Joe Hadenuf
We see it everyday with the major police forces in Kaliforniacator, and the mediots in the LA Slimes, Sac Bee or the SF GayRhonicle never post the picture of someone who murdered someone and is still loose.
84 posted on 11/08/2002 8:25:08 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: rambo316
Political correctness kills.
85 posted on 11/08/2002 8:26:41 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: Catspaw
I am not sure if he was the only one. If he was, then that is even worse. But it was said on FR that he headed it (the task force) up. Moose is, from what I have seen, read and heard, not the type of Chief to go after snipers. Or anyone beyond that of a purse snatcher or shoplifter. I could care less if he is black or white; BUT the thing is that he is black, is PC, and apparently refused to "profile" the snipers, instead releasing a yet-to-be-found truck image. That makes it even worse, and puts him as a racist, because HE made race an issue. Accurate article, IMO. But I could be wrong on this. But I don't think so.
86 posted on 11/08/2002 8:35:00 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: rambo316
Monday morning quarterbacks are out in full force. There is a long line of blame that entails numerous law enforcemenet agencies and personnel in numerous states. It goes back to the Army as well for not dealing with him, when it was their responsibility as well.
87 posted on 11/08/2002 8:41:07 AM PST by FFIGHTER
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To: dirtboy
Look everyone, the profilers were just misunderstood. What they really meant was they were looking for "Vanna White".
88 posted on 11/08/2002 8:43:31 AM PST by bribriagain
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To: Lurking2Long
Your comments never fail to amaze me!
89 posted on 11/08/2002 9:03:45 AM PST by JudyB1938
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
The article singles out Moose and lets the feds off the hook. THAT was my point. Apparently on FR, the PC way is not to be analytical, to go beyond the story, and go along with the rest of the posters. I pointed out that the FBI, not Moose, profiled, and the FBI blew it. I pointed out that there were a number of jurisdictions involved on the task force from local, county, state and federal agencies, but only Moose was getting the blame. I pointed out that when the feds, particularly the FBI, are involved in multijurisdictional taskforces, the information flows only one way (to them) and that they take over the investigation. I pointed out that it was Attorney General John Ashcroft and the Justice Department who made the charging decisions. I want to know if you think that Moose made all the decisions on this taskforce without any discussions with any of the other local, county, state and federal agencies. I want to know if you think that Moose took all the tipline phone calls. I want to know if you think that Moose was the only investigator/detective/beat cop on this case, although it spanned two states and DC.

And most especially, I'd like to know why you are more than willing to absolve the FBI (especially the FBI), the ATF (especially the ATF), the US Secret Service and the Postal Service (as well as other federal alphabet agencies) from any responsibility and blame it all on Moose, simply because he's black, he doesn't talk the way people want him to talk, and was the face out front of this investigation. Given the history of the feds, I'd like to know why they are absolved from any & all mistakes made and that Moose is responsible for them all.

90 posted on 11/08/2002 9:11:16 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: JudyB1938
It's my hope that they will make people think.
91 posted on 11/08/2002 9:28:51 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Howlin
Looks like the bigots are out in full force today.

Yes, adding to the stereotypes of Conservatives. I care less about "dialect" than what is being said.

92 posted on 11/08/2002 9:30:32 AM PST by happygrl
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Don't be too hard on Howlin.

She's a thoughtful, considerate lady with a LOT of CLASS.

I have nothing but the highest respect for her, even on the FEW occassions I disagree with her.

I'd rather have a one of her in the Republican Party than a thousand Pubbies who agreed with me in lock step fashion.
93 posted on 11/08/2002 9:35:44 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: happygrl
It's hard to understand what's being said if you can't understand the dailect.
94 posted on 11/08/2002 9:36:21 AM PST by bribriagain
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To: Catspaw
I've never blamed it on his being black, his attributes, or personality, except when his character lends to it. And MOOSE was the one to say he was leading the investigation. I think it was the first (or second?) press briefing he gave; but at one time he indeed declared it was his. I am certain that other agencies were involved, but the responsibility was his. Also, a poster on FR bragged about how great Moose is during this time, claiming his sister is an inspector for Moose, and that Moose was in charge. That confirmed it. If you think that I am saying Moose took all the calls personally, etc., then that's silly and there's no point to go on. I am looking at the history of the man. And I could care less if he is black; MOOSE made race an issue on his own, without my help.

Regards.

95 posted on 11/08/2002 10:08:19 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: dennisw; Joe Brower; maica; Freee-dame; wardaddy; harpseal; Squantos

Hillary is no doubt eying Moose right now for FBI director in her administration.

Nightmare scenario!

And don't forget Attorney General Schumer!

97 posted on 11/08/2002 10:13:00 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Howlin
What do you specifically find objectionable?
98 posted on 11/08/2002 10:14:50 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
LOL!
99 posted on 11/08/2002 10:14:54 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Catspaw
But it's simpler and easier to blame Moose for the inaccurate profiling than on the FBI, because he was out front and the FBI was in the background.

I believe it was a combination deal. Remember, though, that there was never an official FBI "profile" issued for the sniper, but Moose promised one to the media on Friday, Oct. 4, then had to announce later in the day that the FBI had determined there was "not enough information" for a profile. That would indicate that the FBI, at least, did not want to commit themselves publicly to the standard "angry white guy" profile. I would also speculate that Moose might have been left in charge of the investigation (even though, at one point, there were more killings outside his jurisdiction than there were in it), because the Feds had a suspicion that the killer might be non-white, and, considering Moose's well-publicized history, he couldn't possibly be perceived as prejudiced against minorities, if push came to shove, whereas the FBI might catch hell in the media for even speculating in that direction, down the road.

As far as statistical probabilities, if white serial killers are counted in relation to the percentage of whites in the population, there is a lower percentage of white serial killers than there are whites.

But let's not descend to racial squabbling on these points. The truth of the matter, as we have entered the most perilous time in our history, is that political correctness kills -- and if we as a people don't get past it soon, if we don't stop letting fear of "racism" blind us to who a terrorist or a terrorist group might be, we put all Americans, no matter what their skin color, in deep peril. That is why the Islamists among us are so strident with the use of the term "racism" -- using it as a shield while they plot our destruction. For the sake of our own survival, we need to get over it.

100 posted on 11/08/2002 10:16:52 AM PST by browardchad
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