AAAS Board Resolution Urges Opposition to "Intelligent Design" Theory in U.S. Science Classes

AAAS ^ | November 6, 2002 | Ginger Pinholster

[Physicist]

I agree. In fact, I most commonly describe myself as a "classical liberal" when people ask my political orientation.

[Physicist]

I would stress that this is not just making claims about design, but actually using an ID approach to making research discoveries.

Another broad claim, but all I have is your assertion that it's so. Where's the beef? Where's an algorithm I can apply to a sequence of numbers, say, and determine whether it was designed or not?

[Nebullis]

We cant have any children thinking for themselves!!

First, children must learn their ABCs. Then they can think for themselves.

[arielb]

hey Atheists Anonymous for the Advancement of Stupidity: Republicans won bigtime Nov 5, 2002. Get over it.

[Nebullis]

For those freepers who don't want to bother visiting the link, AAAS stands for the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

Thanks. Also, AAAS is the publisher of Science.

[Nebullis]

His work has led him to believe that it is impossible to simulaneously evolve 50 specialized genes to give the bacteria this component and there are no intermediate functionalities that could use only some of the genes while the others "evolve' to produce the final function.

This is not what we would call a research discovery.

[f.Christian]

Evolution...Atheism-dehumanism---TYRANNY(pc/liberal/govt-religion/rhetoric)...

Then came the SPLIT SCHIZOPHRENIA/ZOMBIE/BRAVE-NWO1984 LIBERAL NEO-Soviet Darwin/ACLU America---the post-modern age of switch-flip-spin-DEFORMITY-cancer...Atheist secular materialists through ATHEISM/evolution CHANGED-REMOVED the foundations...demolished the wall(separation of state/religion)--trampled the TRUTH-GOD...built a satanic temple/SWAMP-MALARIA/RELIGION(cult of darwin-marx-satan) over them---REDACTED and made these absolutes subordinate--relative and calling/CHANGING all the... residuals---technology/science === TO evolution via schlock/sMUCK IDEOLOGY/lies/bias...to substantiate/justify their efforts--claims...social engineering--PC--atheism...anti-God/Truth RELIGION(USSC monopoly)--and declared a crusade/WAR--JIHAD--INTOLERANCE/TYRANNY(breaking the establishment clause)...against God--man--society/FREEDOM/LIBERTY/SCIENCE!!

[Nebullis]

Republicans won bigtime Nov 5, 2002.

I know it. I helped vote them in.

[Doctor Stochastic]

I just had dinner last month with a research microbiologist from a relatively large university and he was telling me how he uses design concepts in a predictive capacity for his research work on bacteria.

Perhaps you could point us to some peer-reviewed papers published by your anonymous contact. In that way, we can judge in what way he or she (as the case may be) actually uses design concepts.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

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[Fester Chugabrew]

AAAS . . .

You sure that isn't ASSS? e.g. American Society for Socialist Shenanigans or some such.

[Doctor Stochastic]

And what is the point? Are scientific theories to be subject to vote?

[RonF]

Scientifically:

Intelligent Design is an interesting guess, but unless a hypothesis can be developed from it that can be then tested, it doesn't qualify as a theory.

Theologically:

I personally don't think God would/will allow "proof" of his existence. It seems to me that the whole concept behind faith is that you accept it in the absence of proof. If the existence of God was provable, then God would be part of man's body of knowledge, and I think one of the points of faith is that God's plan cannot be encompassed by man's reason.

[Nebullis]

Is this the p24 antigen test? Johns Hopkins?

[CalConservative]

This is not what we would call a research discovery

That was basically part of the background conversation I was describing. Like I said, I'm a geologist, so I'm hardly the right one to describe research microbiology or genetics, but his research basically had to do with temperature regulation of bacteria. I guess what I was mainly interested in was the process and how ID was used in his research.

[Nebullis]

I guess what I was mainly interested in was the process and how ID was used in his research.

It seems you didn't get much of an idea of that process. A claim of design use in research is too broad to be useful. In some sense we all do that. It has little to do with Intelligent Design theory.

[Alamo-Girl]

Hi, Nebullis! The following statement left me scratching my head. Could you elaborate please?

A claim of design use in research is too broad to be useful. In some sense we all do that. It has little to do with Intelligent Design theory.

[aruanan]

AAAS Board Resolution Urges Opposition to "Intelligent Design" Theory in U.S. Science Classes

These are the descendents of those who tried to protect the phlogiston theory of combustion.

[MHGinTN]

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