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All the sex a girl needs
TownHall.com ^ | Thursday, November 7, 2002 | by Ben Shapiro

Posted on 11/06/2002 9:23:49 PM PST by JohnHuang2

Teenage girls are now almost as likely to initiate sex as boys. So reported The New York Times on Nov. 3, in a piece entitled "She's Got to Be a Macho Girl." "After a half-century during which generations of young women were advised to never even call a boy on the telephone," read the article, "it is now teenage girls who not only do the calling, but who often initiate romantic and even sexual activity." The article highlights this new girls-as-aggressors phenomenon as "daring," a logical outgrowth of women's "empowerment." But in truth, the new development reveals the failure of the modern feminist movement. A major goal of the feminist movement was to put women in the workplace. Advocating job over family, the "women's equality crowd" told women that men were unnecessary for long-term relationships. "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle," said militant male-basher Gloria Steinem.

Men became "boy-toys." Use them, and then, lose them. Men became to women what for too long women had been to men -- sexual objects. Sex is fun, the logic went, and the more sex the better -- so go get 'em, tigress! "There is a kind of machismo among girls now," Marty Beckerman, age 19, told the Times. "They have the male-conquest attitude."

Where were the parents to prevent such a despicable chain of events? The feminists had discarded them, too. Marriage was a sham perpetrated by the male power structure, the all-knowing feminists told society.

Just check the National Organization for Women's web site. NOW's web page links to an article by Mary Garden ripping pro-marriage politicians. "We also need to ignore the wailing of politicians and journalists who, fueled by such research, want us to return to a romanticized version of nuclear family life in the 1950s that simply never existed," Garden writes. When in doubt, lie about the 1950s. Statistics show that the nuclear family was far stronger in the 1950s than it is today.

Divorce, shacking up and single motherhood are just as good as traditional marriage, both for children and for women, feminists claim. "No one is a stay-at-home mom anymore," Sarah Durrell, 17, explained to the Times. "Women don't have to wear skirts. We are empowered, and we can do whatever we want."

This supposedly "empowering" ideal cuts men out of the loop. Want a career and a kid? Get pregnant, and then, throw the bum out. A single mother is sufficient for the child. The liberal media endorses this idea, championing pregnant single mothers on many prime-time television programs.

And so men have become non-entities in the household. Young men suffer without the presence of a father -- paternal absence is perhaps the primary cause of gangbanging and other crime. But what is less talked about is the effect on young women who lack strong fathers.

The Times quotes a young girl who says her mother approves of her forward behavior. What about her father? He doesn't approve and says, "I used to be a boy once, and I know what they're after, and they're only after one thing." Wise advice. But she writes him off as "old-fashioned." Because what would a man know about male lust, after all?

The feminist movement calls parental advice illegitimate. Give a girl a condom, and let her loose, they say. If she gets pregnant, give her an abortion. But whatever you do, don't let parents raise their own children.

That's Planned Parenthood's way. It posts a fact sheet about teen pregnancy. Guess what solutions it recommends: an end to abstinence-only education, plus on-demand abortion for minors without parental notification if the teens get knocked up. "Presently, an unrealistic emphasis is placed on preventing adolescent sexual behavior," the fact sheet states, "which overlooks the fact that sexual expression is an essential component of healthy human development for individuals of all ages."

In Deuteronomy 15:15-17, the Bible describes a seemingly strange ritual. If a man marries a woman to whom he was engaged and then accuses her of not being a virgin prior to marriage, the parents of the woman must bring proofs of her virginity to the elders of the city. Why is this the job of the parents? Commentators explain that if the accusations are true, the parents must shoulder the responsibility.

If The New York Times is correct, and today's teenage girls aggressively pursue sex, it is a reflection of the feminist movement, which has castrated parents' ability to raise their children properly. And it's the promiscuous girls and their unwanted children who pay the price.


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To: dmband256
And also, there's a bit of a double standard going on here.

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You're trying to work your way out of something now. There's only one set of standards, yours. When people talk about double standards what they're telling me is that their behavior should be limited by the availability of partners.

As far as men's behavior, being an old bastard I can remember when the term playboy didn't refer to a magazine with a cute rabbit on the front of it somewhere. When a man of stature in the community called you a playboy it was a serious shot across your bow telling you if you didn't wise up you would be prohibited from association with men of caliber in the community and to stay away from his daughter.

I'm at the point of life where I'm apt to tell a woman that if she's been screwing idiots she shouldn't be surprised when more of the type what she's screwing get in line for a sot of the same thing. Guys who are worth a damn are not going to wait at the back of the line for what's left.

Sex is serious business, a lot more serious than people have been treat it for the last nearly 40 years. It produces some personality changes in women that men of any seriousness can sense and don't like.

81 posted on 11/07/2002 10:44:06 AM PST by RLK
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To: SuperVixen Lona
A pig with 3 ex-wives. For a man who promotes his knowledge of women and non-commitment lifestyle , he sure keeps going back...and failing. He must like alimony.
82 posted on 11/07/2002 10:44:23 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: ccmay
LOL! TOO FUNNY! If I seem 'giddy', it's because I am. A beautiful day to be back in Big Sky country and to be an American.
83 posted on 11/07/2002 10:49:13 AM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: dmband256
And where do you think women are getting these diseases? From men. Men are not innocent here. And women dress that way because they know men look. Stop looking, and they'll stop dressing that way.

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BINGO

Women get the diseases from the woman sitting next to them at the woman's liberation meeting through the intermediary of the guy they're both screwing.

As far as looking is concerned, I look at traffic accidents, but that doesn't mean I want to marry one.

84 posted on 11/07/2002 10:50:22 AM PST by RLK
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To: dmband256
Woman have always taken on the task of civilizing man. Sex was their number one tool of empowerment to that end. They have discarded that tool because they have been convinced that equal sexual mores makes them somehow "equal" to men. They bought the lies of the NOW. When a majority of women abstained from sex before marriage they had much more influnce on the cultural direction of society. They had power. They were more equal then men.
85 posted on 11/07/2002 10:50:52 AM PST by KDD
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To: Motherbear
Tell them to ask around for some homeschooled girls. I know a few very pretty ones, and they can cook, take care of a home,

The thing is, how are they going to run into these home school types? I don't think there are many social opportunities where regular school kids and home schoolers interact. Kids really depend on social structures to communicate to each other.

86 posted on 11/07/2002 10:51:13 AM PST by proust
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To: blondekates
God bless you. Keep up the good work.
87 posted on 11/07/2002 10:53:25 AM PST by RLK
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To: Dead Dog
Actually I think that he has 4 ex wives, but who's counting. He also brags that he cheated on every single wife.

I must say that every time I have heard him, he has made me physically ill. The men and women who call in and say that they use people, just like him, need to be taken out and put afloat on a ship without a rudder, since they live rudderless lives.
88 posted on 11/07/2002 10:56:21 AM PST by SuperVixen Lona
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To: Nakatu X; dmband256
You can look for that shy, sweet type all you want, ladies - and in the end, he will bore you to tears. In the end, the can do, get to it, assertive, confident guy, who is a little hard to control is going to be the one who makes the best provider, husband and father - not some milksop, nor is the misogynist who rules with a bible in one hand and verbal abuse flying from his mouth, who refuses to allow you to be you, and who wants merely a maid, nanny and blowup doll a good choice.
90 posted on 11/07/2002 11:03:07 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: dmband256
If a man sleeps around, it's perfectly normal. If a women sleeps around, then there's something wrong with her.

When I was in high school, some of my friends slept around and I considered them to be pretty dumb.

By the time I got to college, I realized that promiscuity isn't just dumb, it is evil. I didn't have any more friends who openly slept around because I couldn't stand them. I am sure some did, but none of us considered it something to brag about.

So not all men have a double standard.

91 posted on 11/07/2002 11:03:07 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: RLK
"When people talk about double standards what they're telling me is that their behavior should be limited by the availability of partners."

That is not what I said or meant. I said that both men and women are out there having sex. So why are we just picking on the women?
92 posted on 11/07/2002 11:03:22 AM PST by dmband256
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To: dmband256
They're just picking on the women because you've walked into an ex officio meeting of the FR "Real Man, He-Man, Women Haters Club". Unfortunately, that seems to be a fairly dominent frame of mind here.
93 posted on 11/07/2002 11:06:45 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: RLK
"Women get the diseases from the woman sitting next to them at the woman's liberation meeting through the intermediary of the guy they're both screwing."

Are you serious? First of all, in this senario, the women have still gotten the disease from having sex with a man. Second of all, both these women are sleeping with just one man. It's the man who's sleeping with more than one person.
94 posted on 11/07/2002 11:06:45 AM PST by dmband256
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To: hopespringseternal
I'm not condoning sleeping around for either sex. I think it's wrong either way. Sex is supposed to be between two people who love one another. But people seem to be picking on women here, and implying that men are completely blameless.
95 posted on 11/07/2002 11:09:40 AM PST by dmband256
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
I agree Chancellor.
96 posted on 11/07/2002 11:10:29 AM PST by dmband256
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To: SuperVixen Lona
Likus is a living illustration of what Goldwater ment by Conservatives focus on the spiritual, liberals on the material. Likus preaches a coherent rationalization of materialism. I don't think the guy has a clue what he is doing, or the destruction he is causing himself or his fallowers.
97 posted on 11/07/2002 11:11:34 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog
What we have now is an entire generation of permanently adolescent males and young women with shredded soles.

Does that have anything to do with, "keeping them barefoot and pregnant?"

98 posted on 11/07/2002 11:24:15 AM PST by Old Professer
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
You can look for that shy, sweet type all you want, ladies - and in the end, he will bore you to tears.

Wow. That's some serious stereotyping. Shy, sweet guys are boring and make lousy husbands. Great analysis. I'll just say that I have a lot of friends who I think fall into the category of good husband, father, and provider. Some are what you might call sweet and shy, and some aren't. But you're willingness to create such limitations on who can or cannot be a good husband is amusing.

In the end, the can do, get to it, assertive, confident guy, who is a little hard to control is going to be the one who makes the best provider, husband and father

Now that's actually funny. In your definition of who makes the best provider, husband and father, the only qualities you deemed important were assertiveness, confidence, and the inability to be "controlled". Not a word about empathy, courage, integrity, loyalty, kindness, etc. By your definition, the average Hell's Angel, gangsta rapper, or philandering politician should make a great husband, provider, and father.

99 posted on 11/07/2002 11:28:17 AM PST by XJarhead
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
You can look for that shy, sweet type all you want, ladies - and in the end, he will bore you to tears.

Bovine scatology. And, incidentally, if you tell my wife her shy, sweet husband is boring, she might just haul back and deck you one.

Lots of shy, sweet people are wonderful folks. Lots of "confident, assertive, get to it" people are shallow, self-absorbed egomaniacs.

The kind of guy a girl should marry is the kind whom she thinks would make a top-notch friend. A good marriage is based on a strong friendship. Some people like strong, assertive friends. Some don't. Nothing wrong with that.

100 posted on 11/07/2002 11:29:01 AM PST by Campion
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