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All the sex a girl needs
TownHall.com ^ | Thursday, November 7, 2002 | by Ben Shapiro

Posted on 11/06/2002 9:23:49 PM PST by JohnHuang2

Teenage girls are now almost as likely to initiate sex as boys. So reported The New York Times on Nov. 3, in a piece entitled "She's Got to Be a Macho Girl." "After a half-century during which generations of young women were advised to never even call a boy on the telephone," read the article, "it is now teenage girls who not only do the calling, but who often initiate romantic and even sexual activity." The article highlights this new girls-as-aggressors phenomenon as "daring," a logical outgrowth of women's "empowerment." But in truth, the new development reveals the failure of the modern feminist movement. A major goal of the feminist movement was to put women in the workplace. Advocating job over family, the "women's equality crowd" told women that men were unnecessary for long-term relationships. "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle," said militant male-basher Gloria Steinem.

Men became "boy-toys." Use them, and then, lose them. Men became to women what for too long women had been to men -- sexual objects. Sex is fun, the logic went, and the more sex the better -- so go get 'em, tigress! "There is a kind of machismo among girls now," Marty Beckerman, age 19, told the Times. "They have the male-conquest attitude."

Where were the parents to prevent such a despicable chain of events? The feminists had discarded them, too. Marriage was a sham perpetrated by the male power structure, the all-knowing feminists told society.

Just check the National Organization for Women's web site. NOW's web page links to an article by Mary Garden ripping pro-marriage politicians. "We also need to ignore the wailing of politicians and journalists who, fueled by such research, want us to return to a romanticized version of nuclear family life in the 1950s that simply never existed," Garden writes. When in doubt, lie about the 1950s. Statistics show that the nuclear family was far stronger in the 1950s than it is today.

Divorce, shacking up and single motherhood are just as good as traditional marriage, both for children and for women, feminists claim. "No one is a stay-at-home mom anymore," Sarah Durrell, 17, explained to the Times. "Women don't have to wear skirts. We are empowered, and we can do whatever we want."

This supposedly "empowering" ideal cuts men out of the loop. Want a career and a kid? Get pregnant, and then, throw the bum out. A single mother is sufficient for the child. The liberal media endorses this idea, championing pregnant single mothers on many prime-time television programs.

And so men have become non-entities in the household. Young men suffer without the presence of a father -- paternal absence is perhaps the primary cause of gangbanging and other crime. But what is less talked about is the effect on young women who lack strong fathers.

The Times quotes a young girl who says her mother approves of her forward behavior. What about her father? He doesn't approve and says, "I used to be a boy once, and I know what they're after, and they're only after one thing." Wise advice. But she writes him off as "old-fashioned." Because what would a man know about male lust, after all?

The feminist movement calls parental advice illegitimate. Give a girl a condom, and let her loose, they say. If she gets pregnant, give her an abortion. But whatever you do, don't let parents raise their own children.

That's Planned Parenthood's way. It posts a fact sheet about teen pregnancy. Guess what solutions it recommends: an end to abstinence-only education, plus on-demand abortion for minors without parental notification if the teens get knocked up. "Presently, an unrealistic emphasis is placed on preventing adolescent sexual behavior," the fact sheet states, "which overlooks the fact that sexual expression is an essential component of healthy human development for individuals of all ages."

In Deuteronomy 15:15-17, the Bible describes a seemingly strange ritual. If a man marries a woman to whom he was engaged and then accuses her of not being a virgin prior to marriage, the parents of the woman must bring proofs of her virginity to the elders of the city. Why is this the job of the parents? Commentators explain that if the accusations are true, the parents must shoulder the responsibility.

If The New York Times is correct, and today's teenage girls aggressively pursue sex, it is a reflection of the feminist movement, which has castrated parents' ability to raise their children properly. And it's the promiscuous girls and their unwanted children who pay the price.


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To: RLK; dmband256
You American guys aren't any more prizes than we are. Every "slutty" sexual act means that there is a guy involved in there, so your gender isn't any more chaste or less slutty.

Hope you're enjoying your ideal foreign bride, and stop picking on this girl. She's absolutely right, and she is doing the right thing. You're just looking for an excuse to demonize her.

Many, if not most, of the "good" young men are much more timid than they used to be, and that has nothing to do with sluttiness on the women's part. If anything, you can bet that abusive (on the guy's part) marriages were initiated by over-aggressive men taking advantage of insecure women.

The geek boys in particular are the ones who will love the most, and they are the shyest. One day I'm going to find & marry a computer or engineer geek and stay married to him forever and treasure him forever, I just gotta find the right one.

In short, cultural customs do change, RLK--believe it or not.
61 posted on 11/07/2002 10:18:12 AM PST by Nataku X
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To: twigs
I think women who have strong and moral fathers tend to know what a man is and tend to seek them out. The others are hopeless, if they have a good thing they won't appreciate it and will find a jerk to cheat with.
62 posted on 11/07/2002 10:22:04 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: RLK
I won't deny that there is more sexual relationships going on today than 5O years ago. But who's fault is that? Granted, women aren't completely blameless. But it's not all our fault either. Men want sex. Women want to be wanted by men. That is why a lot of young women think it's necessary to sleep with a guy to keep him. And also, there's a bit of a double standard going on here. If a man sleeps around, it's perfectly normal. If a women sleeps around, then there's something wrong with her. What about porn? What sort of image does that put out to young men and women? Those women wouldn't be participating in porn if the men weren't eating it up. And what about rap music, calling women names, and talking about rape like it's ok. Those are just a few things that perpetuate and create this reputation.

And also, there's a bit of a double standard going on here. If a man sleeps around, it's perfectly normal. If a women sleeps around, then there's something wrong with her.
64 posted on 11/07/2002 10:24:35 AM PST by dmband256
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To: RLK
I won't deny that there is more sexual relationships going on today than 5O years ago. But who's fault is that? Granted, women aren't completely blameless. But it's not all our fault either. Men want sex. Women want to be wanted by men. That is why a lot of young women think it's necessary to sleep with a guy to keep him. What about porn? What sort of image does that put out to young men and women? Those women wouldn't be participating in porn if the men weren't eating it up. And what about rap music, calling women names, and talking about rape like it's ok. Those are just a few things that perpetuate and create this reputation.

And also, there's a bit of a double standard going on here. If a man sleeps around, it's perfectly normal. If a women sleeps around, then there's something wrong with her.
65 posted on 11/07/2002 10:24:45 AM PST by dmband256
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To: Nakatu X
Thank you very much Nakatu X, as least someone knows what I mean.
66 posted on 11/07/2002 10:26:52 AM PST by dmband256
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To: dmband256
Second of all, how do you know that reputation has been rightfully earned? Have you polled all the women in the US?...

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Well, something like 20% of women coming in to college health services have papilloma viris. Twenty percent have genital herpes. In recent periods 50% of American women have between the ages of 21 and 40 had other forms of VD at any particular time. I don't think they got it from Coca Cola vending machines. Fifty percent o them have been sexually active by age 16. By 19, forget about it. I could go on with statistics but I don't want to be cruel.

Many of them curse like stevedores and wear clothes that make them look like they are on their way out the door to work the street.

68 posted on 11/07/2002 10:27:23 AM PST by RLK
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To: Dead Dog
I couldn't agree more. Who is the person who tells you that guy's bad news? Who is the person that lets you know he doesn't like them? It's the daddy. In high school, the general attitude of girls is to be boy crazy. Therefore, as much as a girl's friends love her, they will not see a guy's worthlessness in the early stages. When they finally do catch a glimpse of it, the girl has already fallen into it, and there's no way to bring her back to reality until she gets hurt, but if you have daddy telling you that you aren't allowed to see that boy, that puts the doubt in your head right away. As for me, I'm just waiting for the man who will treat me like my dad treats my mom. That's when I know it's real love.
70 posted on 11/07/2002 10:29:26 AM PST by blondekates
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To: Ajnin
...Female empowerment is a myth....

Tell that to all the singles struggling to own a house, while working two jobs, and too tired to live, much less call a man for sex.

In their quest for the perfect female life, they have no life at all and they gush at the chance to vote for rats who confiscate their earnings as taxes.

Pregnancy is feared above all else and thus female intelligence becomes a self regulating phemenon.

71 posted on 11/07/2002 10:30:31 AM PST by bert
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To: dmband256
Good luck on your quest for a decent man
72 posted on 11/07/2002 10:30:55 AM PST by Centurion2000
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To: Phyto Chems
when will the sheeple wake and turn way from the RAT's lie.

It started on 9/11/2001. It is a long slow process, but it has begun and will continue, one mind at a time.

73 posted on 11/07/2002 10:31:02 AM PST by bankwalker
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To: dmband256
Men want sex. Women want to be wanted by men.

The old story about free milk and the cow will always be true for young men.

74 posted on 11/07/2002 10:34:04 AM PST by KDD
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To: RLK
And where do you think women are getting these diseases? From men. Men are not innocent here. And women dress that way because they know men look. Stop looking, and they'll stop dressing that way.
75 posted on 11/07/2002 10:35:11 AM PST by dmband256
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To: Dead Dog
My daughter did not grow up with a father; I raised her alone until she was 12. And she does sorely miss knowing her real father. But lack of a father is something that does not have to doom girls. I raised her in a good church where we were surrounded with lots of good, close families. And I strove to keep our own home very stable. I was not out seeking relationships and very rarely even used a babysitter. Even when I had events on weekends I needed to attend for work, if at all possible, I took her. And we talk a lot about all the issues that face teenagers today. I married when she was 12 and all of us now do a lot as family. She is still expected to behave herself like a young lady.
76 posted on 11/07/2002 10:35:47 AM PST by twigs
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To: Dead Dog
Tom Lykus is a pig.
77 posted on 11/07/2002 10:36:04 AM PST by SuperVixen Lona
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To: KDD
KDD, I couldn't agree more. That's why I'm not giving out the milk. But most women don't seem to understand that. And a lot of men seem to take advantage of that. It's certainly not what they're taught. (or shown my various examples I have already talked about.) But that's my point, you can't just blame women for it. It's not all their fault. It's not one-sided. These women need a man to be having sex with. And again, no one complains when a man goes out and has sex.
78 posted on 11/07/2002 10:40:08 AM PST by dmband256
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To: dmband256
And as far as I've seen, it's the women who get hurt when they become involved with men, not the other way around.

Getting "hurt" is one thing, but putting up with ridiculous bullsh!t is quite another. Men have found that women(some/many/not all) are more than willing to give us sex without us having to be in a relationship and put up with their insecurities and other crap.

Its definitely a two-way street though. The point is that women in general have been harmed by "feminism" and "girl power", and many wont realize it. Lack of respect for themselves, unrealistic physical beauty standards and reversed gender roles are all bi-products and part of the harm, and the BS I spoke of above. Basically, with many women believing they are now "sexually empowered", they let the men, who are more than willing to "get the milk without buying the cow", take advantage of them.

79 posted on 11/07/2002 10:42:28 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: RLK
By 19, forget about it. I could go on with statistics but I don't want to be cruel.

Earlier in this thread, I could see your point, but now you have started using downright stereotypes. Not all teenage girls are like that. While yes I will agree that many of the girls my age are sexually active and proud of it, I also have good friends who are not ruling out sex until there is a ring on their finger, but who are currently abstinent. As for me, I am the extreme case. I don't believe in sex before marriage. I used to think that I was the one and only teenage girl that thought that. However, now that I am at a Catholic college, I have found that there are many girls AND guys that share my view.

Also, I have to agree with dmband256. There is a double standard. Just because men have ALWAYS craved sex shouldn't make it anymore acceptable for them to be sleeping around.

I have to agree with most of the earlier posts and say that a good girl is a product of good parenting.

80 posted on 11/07/2002 10:42:35 AM PST by blondekates
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