[Eagle9]

PING!

That's a pretty big trial balloon, huh?

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Bush is considering a total re-write of the tax code and that SecTreas O'Neill is strongly pushing a national retail sales tax!

Excellent! So, perhaps Alan Keyes made some sense during those debates? But Bush knew it wasn't the right time to talk about it.

You want to talk about stimulating the economy? Boom! Insto-presto!

[Mensch]

Don't tease me this way, its not kind,

[blam]

This is in line with my desire for years. ...and that is, if you don't pay taxes, you don't vote. This essentially does that.

[snowstorm12]

Yes the IRS is out of control and it just get's worse and worse every year. The IRS should be totally shut down.

I think the sales tax idea would work, but what is going to prevent the dems from raising the tax on items a little here and there and then before you know it the prices on goods are through the roof. They will say we need to raise taxes on goods to pay for some outrageously expensive money pit programs.

[isthisnickcool]

What!? That stupid Bush is at it again! Who does this guy think he is? Some kind of Harvard MBA?? The next thing the moron will be telling us is that he can fly jets! LOL! I remember when he said he was going to beat Ann Richards! Then he had the audacity to say he was going to be president! Bush thought he was going to beat McCain and then Gore and Lieberman! LOL! And, he recently thought he could win mid-term elections in a way nobody has seen in decades! LOL!

NOW he is making noise about doing something about the stupid tax system in America? He can't do that! No way! Just like all that other stuff he tried to do! It won't work because he is "stupid"...... /sarcasm off

[Caipirabob]

Can you say "Bush DYNASTY"?!?

Man, if he could do that there'd be dancing in the streets, and I've been practicing my Samba...

[Action-America]

BUMP!

[Temple Owl]

Don't get yhour hopes up.Phil Graham and Dick Armey spent months on tour debating the merits of a sales tax vs. an income tax. Nothing ever happened. Arlen (Wishy Washy) Specter ran for president flashing a postcard- sized tax form. After he was booted from the race, he never mentioned it again.

I'm an optimist, but ..... Hey, I didn't think we were going to win the Senate either.

[William Terrell]

Have any of you seen and understood the bills that have been floated to impliment the NRST to date? Do you have any conception of the rates you will be paying, over the state sales tax, and do any of you have any idea of what the implimentation of an NRST will do to the relationship between the federal government and the states?

We are just beginning to see a recovery in the power of the states against the federal government. An NRST will destroy that.

Do you realize that the rate will be closer to 28% to 30%, without the 6% to 10% state sales tax? And everything new sold without exception will carry that rate, groceries, internet connections?

Scrapping the IRS and income tax code is all well and fine, but realize that the 16th amendment will have to be repealed first, and do any out here have a idea of the time required to ratify such an amendment?

What if the congress allowed the NRST to go forward with a promise to repeal the 16th, and Oh my! we just can get enough states to reatify the repealing amendment.

How would social security be funded? It would be a portion of the NRST, but it would have to maintain the level it currently is, by law. If there were a great move to used products, then the level of NRST will fall and require a hike in the rate either directly or indirectly to get it back to level.

You have to realize that the federal government is not going to take a pay cut, so you will not be relieved of the confiscatory amount of money you send to the fed, just how it is collected. It has been said that collecting payroll taxes and other expenses related to the income and FICA will be rolled back thereby actually lowering item prices.

First, there is no way that could be demanded by law; it would have to be voluntary on the part of businesses, starting at manufacturing and trickling up to retain, where the tax is collected. Everyone is more or less comfortable with prices as they are. An additional NRST will reaise prices dramatically and thoroughly mask the failure to not remove the old income tax price padding.

The income tax law grew from about 90 pages to 90,000 pages, if I remember correctly, over its life. Rates increased from about 1% to what it is now. Every day there are people protesting the confiscatory tax by refusing to pay it, and that very same behavior was the reason that congress scaled back on the brutal tactics of the IRS in the middle '80s.

This public resistance tends to keep abuse in check. With a NRST, the only way for an ordinary citizen to check abuse will be to not buy food, clothing, heating oil, electricity and gas. Who out here thinks that the rates and ceilings won't be raised and raised, like the income tax was?

Instead of just clicking your heels, you should be inventigating the host of details. That's where this particular devil lies. YOu think the income tax is bad. Just wait a couple years after an NRST and a couple rate hikes.

[Revolting cat!]

Does that mean I would no longer be getting free tax preparation software from my mutual funds every year? In that case, I'm against it!

[WhiteGuy]

Now that would be some bold leadership.

[JavaTheHutt]

Yeah George! We got out the vote yesterday, and we're about to start seeing the benefits of all the hard work!

[LibWhacker]

Dubya is already perhaps the greatest president ever. If he does this, he'll be untouchable in the annals of American History. And there are six more years to go!!! Not to mention all the righteous victories sure to come against what are perhaps the scummiest fanatical villains ever to set foot on planet earth -- the democrats.

[Hostage]

This is truly unbelievable. I won't be able to sleep now. Thanks for the post and please keep it coming.

[rwfromkansas]

There have been articles about this for months now.......

We actually stand a chance of finally doing something here. Call the WH....let's flood Bush's phone lines to encourage him to act!

COMMENTS: 202-456-1111
SWITCHBOARD: 202-456-1414 (might be good to ask for Rove's office)
FAX: 202-456-2461


President George W. Bush: president@whitehouse.gov
Vice President Richard Cheney: vice.president@whitehouse.gov

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

If this is true then Mr. Bush has finally got my attention.

[LibKill]

A flat tax would work.

The flatter the better.

(If you didn't get the humor; the lower the rate the better.)

[archy]

Whether this turns out to be true or not, I do wish that Herb Meadows/ CHIEF Negotiator, had lived to see this day come when there was hope for such a possibility.

Rest easy, Marine.

-archy-/-

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

The DemonRats have got to be having a conniption fit over this. Bummer!