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Isn't the proper response for us to encourage the leftists to vote for the Greens?

Otherwise, I vote;
Libertarian 'till I die.

You should vote your conscience. As for the rest of us, we know the logic and the home truth contained in the saying "The good is the enemy of the perfect." Sun Tzu also had some sage advice about splitting one's forces;

We can form a single united body, while the enemy must split up into fractions. Hence there will be a whole pitted against separate parts of a whole, which means that we shall be many to the enemy's few.

We can form a single united body, while the enemy must split up into fractions. Hence there will be a whole pitted against separate parts of a whole, which means that we shall be many to the enemy's few.
Sun Tzu

Well, You and Your fellow republicans are welcome to join forces with the Libertarian Party, and do some REAL good for America.

Just don't expect me to keep the faith with a party that won't stand up to creeping (galloping, actually)socialism in american politics.
The Republicans need to get their act together if they want my support.
Otherwise, I will look elsewhere for an answer.

Think about it.
If it becomes necessary to turn to Revolution to put America back on track, how do You think the Republican Party will fare?

This was a "MUST READ"???

Well put.

Forget not, once in power the Dims will be the ones writing laws on taxes, spending, immigration, gun control, and trade. It will be THEY who select for us the judges, administrators, attorneys general, top military officers, regulators, and bureaucrats. 'Tis THEY who will write tort law and set education policy. If the Republicans have been seemingly too eager to compromise with the Dims of late, those who, by their "principled" votes sent more Dims to Washington are partly to blame...compromise would NOT be as necessary with a greater Republican majority. You who complain about "weak-spined" Republicans are, unfortunately, partly to blame.

The only difference between the "Road to Hell" as defined by the Democrats or Republicans is that the Republican road is a bit slower and winding.
And republicans are "compromising" america right into a Socialist State.

Either way, we still end up in Hell.

"Weak Spined" is exactly the term I would use for most so-called moderate republicans.
And I am not even "partly" responsible for their votes on gun control, impeachment, free trade, and a dozen other Liberal initiatives that republicans "caved" on.
Scottish Law, my A$$. (That was a republican, remember?)

And how do You figure it's just the GOP that loses votes to Libertarians?
Democrats lose votes just as well, and like it no more.
Your (group's) rationalizations hold no water with me.

As I said in my previous post,
I will vote for TALENT in MO. this one time.
But it is the very LAST vote for a republican unless the party can show ME some principle and backbone.

You should be proud. You seem like one who's hard to please.

Such a shame, no one's TRYING to please you, however.

If you help to elect a Dim, I'm sure that high horse you're on will feel just DUCKY when it lands on you. Trouble is, the rest of us have to live with it as well.

Occasionally, here at FR people post their opinions without the benefit of a crystal ball.
The "facts" used to develop those opinions are the result of
deductive reasoning, based upon the best information available.
It's not perfect.
It's silly to believe that a post here at FR will result in "overconfidence" and potential voters staying home as a result.

Well, You and Your fellow republicans are welcome to join forces with the Libertarian Party, and do some REAL good for America.

Exactly how can becoming politically irrelevant be "good for America?"

Just don't expect me to keep the faith with a party that won't stand up to creeping (galloping, actually)socialism in american politics.

And just how good is the Rat's record in "standing up to creeping socialism in American politics?"

The Republicans need to get their act together if they want my support.

"'My St. Bernard needs to go where I tell him to or I'll bite him again', said the flea."

Otherwise, I will look elsewhere for an answer.

You can't win if you're not on the winning team. If you don't want to wear the right uniform, kindly stay on the sidelines or in the stands.

Think about it.

I have, carefully. And I still come to the same conclusion that Libertarians are politically irrelevant and a running joke when it comes to effecting real change.

I had an eccentric uncle who has since passed away, whose favorite activity during family visits was to steal the silverware from the dinner table. He used a hand shift so clumsy that a 3 year-old could see him do it. My parents tolerated his visits and the resulting missing silverware because he was still family and we loved him, we had plenty of tableware and it was cheap to replace, and it didn't hurt anything to indulge him in his kooky kleptomania.

The moral of this story: If you are a Libertarian, don't go through any metal detectors.

If it becomes necessary to turn to Revolution to put America back on track, how do You think the Republican Party will fare?

If it becomes necessary to turn to revolution to "put America back on track," who do you want in the foxhole with you; a Republican or a Democrat?

Together, we all can do so. Apart, we can only wear its chains.

Wonderful post...thank you!

You should be proud. You seem like one who's hard to please. Such a shame, no one's TRYING to please you, however. If you help to elect a Dim, I'm sure that high horse you're on will feel just DUCKY when it lands on you. Trouble is, the rest of us have to live with it as well.

Yeah, I'm proud. Too stand up for my beliefs without apology to any man or woman.
I'm not ASKING anyone to try to please me.
I'm just arguing that I am not WASTING my vote.
It's my vote, and I vote for who I please.
Who are You trying to please?

I won't "help" to elect a Dim, I will help elect the person of my choice.
And if He/She doesn't win, I won't demand a recount, claim discrimination, voter fraud, ask the State Supremes to declare the election void, or any of the other crap Dims do.

As for the "rest of You", all I have to live with is Your constant whining.
Libertarians and Independents aren't "taking votes" from Your party or any other.
They are voting their conscience, and that's more than I can say for those that vote for the 2 Major Parties.
Many are simply voting "the ticket" for the sake of being part of a winning team, not for their true beliefs.
Remember, it's a SECRET BALLOT.
I could vote Libertarian, and SAY I voted Republican if I wanted to and You would never know the difference.

Exactly how can becoming politically irrelevant be "good for America?"

Who's irrelevant?
Someone who votes for their beliefs, or someone who blindly follows "the winning team" in order to belong?

And just how good is the Rat's record in "standing up to creeping socialism in American politics?"
If You spent any time studying politics besides the 7 days (that's a week) before a major election, you would know.
The "Rats" ARE the Socialists.

"'My St. Bernard needs to go where I tell him to or I'll bite him again', said the flea."
First grade reading level. Great. How am I going to explain anything to You?
I am not interested in anyone doing what I tell them to do.
I am interested in freely exercising my right to vote for the candidate of MY CHOICE, without people accusing me of treason to thier particular political party.

You can't win if you're not on the winning team. If you don't want to wear the right uniform, kindly stay on the sidelines or in the stands.

Sometimes it's not about "being on the winning team".
Would You show pride in belonging to the Nazi party during it's early days of political success?
Being one of Stalin's sterling henchmen?
Participating in the ethnic cleansing in Bosnia?

YOU CAN KEEP YOUR UNIFORM. ( Is it a "brown shirt"? )

There is a principle of ethics called "right and wrong".
I am sure You have at least "perused" the constitution.
Hopefully You understand it.
It was written for the Common Man to be able to understand.
It is the Supreme Law of the Land.
Yet, we allow amendments to remain in force that were never fully ratified, only declared so.
We allow the congress to pass clearly unconstitutional laws, and the Supreme court to uphold those laws, and even make law of it's own, a purely congressional right.

But You still think it's more important to be part of the "Winning Team", even if atrocity is it's platform.

If it becomes necessary to turn to revolution to "put America back on track," who do you want in the foxhole with you; a Republican or a Democrat?

Neither one. I'll be shooting at both, unless they change their ways.
You should know the Libertarian view by now.
You are both one and the same.
Their is no essential difference between Dim and Rep.
And until Republicans start acting like true conservatives, and respecting the constitution and the bill of rights, (starting with the voiding of all gun law) I continue to see no difference.

Who's irrelevant?

Libertarians are. 0.3 percent of the vote worth.

Someone who votes for their beliefs, or someone who blindly follows "the winning team" in order to belong?

I opined earlier in this thread that you should vote your conscience. Just don't expect to be taken seriously when you whine and cry here about not getting what you want from politics and politicians when you don't vote for them and don't work to help them win.

The concept is a simple one: Vote for the right party, and your concerns are usually heard and addressed. Vote for the wrong party, and they usually are not.

If You spent any time studying politics besides the 7 days (that's a week) before a major election, you would know.

I'm flattered that you capitalized your reference to me. I get that a lot ;)

The fact that some Libertarians are "threatening" to vote for the Rat, the Green, or an equally irrelevant third party gives a good insight into their whiny mindset.

First grade reading level.

There are reading classes you can take to overcome that. I recommend you look into taking some.

I am not interested in anyone doing what I tell them to do.

And if your guys keep doing stupid stuff in public, we won't, I assure you.

I am interested in freely exercising my right to vote for the candidate of MY CHOICE, without people accusing me of treason to thier particular political party.

But I thought you said you weren't "interested in anyone doing what I tell them to do". Nobody's accusing you and the Libertarians of treason; just of constantly exhibiting idiocy and a "sour grapes" attitude found more often on a kindergarten playground than in the adult world.

Sometimes it's not about "being on the winning team". Would You show pride in belonging to the Nazi party ...

Godwin invoked. I win, you lose.

There is a principle of ethics called "right and wrong".

And there is a principle of politics called "people don't vote for kooks." If you act like or make public statments like a kook, nobody votes for you.

But You still think it's more important to be part of the "Winning Team", even if atrocity is it's platform.

"Atrocity?" What sort of "atrocities" do you see in the Republican platform? Refusing to vote for or support kooks? Not drinking colloidal silver and turning ourselves blue?

(strela) If it becomes necessary to turn to revolution to "put America back on track," who do you want in the foxhole with you; a Republican or a Democrat?

Neither one. I'll be shooting at both ...

Thanks for the admission that you consider murder to be a valid option when somebody says something you disagree with.

Ohhhhh, I get it now ... some law enforcement agency took away your Wal Mart rifle, and now you're mad about it. Domestic violence? Terroristic threats? C'mon, give - what was the reason?

You should know the Libertarian view by now.

Yes, I do. That's why we all laugh at it when we see it.

You are both one and the same.

If you mean that my side wins elections and yours does not, then you are correct.

... until Republicans start acting like true conservatives, and respecting the constitution and the bill of rights, (starting with the voiding of all gun law) I continue to see no difference.

I'm waiting for you to post a public heartcry advocating private ownership of nuclear weapons now. Go ahead, you know you want to. But be aware that we'll just laugh at you and your party again, and you are helpless to prevent it.

You are obviously a waste of time.
Party hacks usually are.

Name calling and inuendo doesn't change the facts.
If Republicans get control of congress, (and I believe they will) NOTHING WILL CHANGE.

Life and politics will go on as usual.

This may be the Republican party's last chance to make a difference, and I will bet You they blow it.
Like I said before, I am giving them a chance in Missouri, even if it is just my one vote.
I won't do it again.

Instead, I will continue to argue, cajole, post, and exercise my freedom of speech to convince others that the major parties are a lost cause.
I will convince voters, one at a time if necessary, to vote for an alternative, like the Libertarian party, and make a statement, if not an immeadiate difference.

Ten years down the road, maybe twenty, we will be a major pary.
Then we will do what should have been done years ago.
Make America Free again.