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Fraud a Part of Demos' Senate Strategy?
The Daily Oklahoman ^ | 31 October 2002 | The Daily Oklahoman Editorial

Posted on 10/31/2002 7:46:32 PM PST by PhiKapMom

Fraud a Part of Demos' Senate Strategy?

2002-10-31

BY THEIR nature political campaigns are not for faint of heart. It ain't beanbag, as they say. Even so, what Democrats are doing in a handful of pivotal races for the U.S. Senate is outrageous, because the central strategy seems to take aim at integrity of the electoral process itself.

Let's start with New Jersey, where incumbent Democratic Sen. Robert Torricelli grappled all year with ethics problems before deciding -- in the shadow of daunting poll numbers -- that he couldn't beat challenger Douglas Forrester and abruptly dropped out of the race.

The state's Democratic machine whirred into action, pulling former Sen. Frank Lautenberg out of mothballs to replace Torricelli -- while asking the state's Supreme Court to order new election ballots printed, bypassing the deadline for such changes spelled out in state law.

You'd expect that kind of emergency remedy if a candidate died, as what happened in Minnesota, or had become suddenly incapacitated, but not merely to bring in a sub for a corrupted pol who was about to be drubbed at the polls.

No matter. Democrats unashamedly demanded a change in the rules in the middle of the contest. And New Jersey's high court, dominated by Democrats, allowed it.

Move on to Iowa, where incumbent Democratic Sen. Tom Harkin last month had to accept the resignation of his campaign manager after a Harkin supporter secretly taped a strategy meeting of his opponent, U.S. Rep. Greg Ganske.

As if that weren't enough, the Des Moines Register reports Iowa Republicans want an investigation into whether the Democrats' aggressive campaign to turn out absentee ballots also included elements of fraud.

The state's GOP claims there have been reports of multiple applications for absentee ballots bearing the same or similar signatures, and that the absentee ballots of some Republican voters have been picked up by Democrats and, presumably, lost.

Sounds a little like what's going on in South Dakota, where Democrats' voter registration drives on Native American reservations are being investigated for fraud. There's real concern the tight Senate race between Democratic incumbent Tim Johnson and Republican John Thune won't be on the up and up.

Same thing in Arkansas, where Republicans accuse Democrats of registering dead people and businesses to vote in the close race between incumbent GOP Sen. Tim Hutchinson and Democrat Mark Pryor.

Said state GOP chairman Marty Ryall: "It makes me wonder, that if you have the Democratic Party behind voter fraud in South Dakota, and Arkansas is a key race, is this a national effort by the Democratic Party to steal elections and steal the Senate?"

Good question.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clintonrats; fraud; lowlifes
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To: Flyer
Wow. Thanks for sharing, Flyer. Can you state what you saw? Do they help the voters push the Straight D?
41 posted on 11/01/2002 4:09:01 AM PST by Gracey
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To: Gracey
I have posted a more complete story at the HAT Chapter forum. It is the "Good Morning Houston! Friday November1" thread.

I may post it here later as a seperate thread, but I want to re-write it first.

42 posted on 11/01/2002 4:15:20 AM PST by Flyer
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To: Dog Gone
The only thing in our favor at the moment is that the election is close in so many states they just don't have the money or the resources to pour into every place.

The pulled the money from McCall, and most likely will not be funding McBribe, only sending Bubba, but keeping the money for the fraud movement. Looks like they are going to have trouble in Louisiana too.

43 posted on 11/01/2002 4:43:09 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: goodnesswins
My understanding, in Texas, is that a poll watcher must stay at the same place all day, just like the election clerks.
44 posted on 11/01/2002 4:43:19 AM PST by mathluv
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To: ProudToBeGOP
In Texas, the counters start the day before with the absentee ballots. Both parties are represented in the people doing the counting. The problem could come in the person in charge of the election for that county does not enforce the laws on the books.

How many of them are DIMS?

45 posted on 11/01/2002 4:47:43 AM PST by mathluv
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To: Gracey
IMO, after the Republicans won the House and Senate in 1994, the Clintonistas, Terry McAuliffe and Co, etc., put their fraud machinery into gear and vowed it would never happen again. They realized that this country was basically NOT Left/Demoncrat, but they couldn't give up their power and CONTROL.

They know that if they lose the Senate, they will lose the judges that will write the laws that they can not get passed through the legislatures. (For example, New Jersey supremes ignoring the 51 day law.)

46 posted on 11/01/2002 4:54:12 AM PST by mathluv
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To: PhiKapMom
because the central strategy seems to take aim at integrity of the electoral process itself.

SEEMS to take aim.....

SEEMS, hardly, it blatantly obvious that they think they had it figured out in 2000, but came up a few dimpled chads short that year. They are taking no chances in 2002 on the "will of the American people". The law, the constitution, be damned, they gotta stop those evil right wing Republicans from starving old people and destroying the environment.

47 posted on 11/01/2002 5:09:55 AM PST by machman
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To: Flyer
Flyer,

First of all, congratulations on taking on that responsibility. Don't be afraid to make challenges. Even if the Election Judge keeps rejecting them, it's going to probably cut down on the amount of fraud just because they know somebody is watching them.

You've probably already done it, but call the Cornyn campaign for help. Today is the last day for early voting in Texas, but you can be sure that they'll continue their attempts next Tuesday.

48 posted on 11/01/2002 5:59:12 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: ProudToBeGOP
anyone have any suggestions.....?

Just common sense stuff. If an ID has one addres and the list has another, this could be a double dipper, voting from home and business. They must produce ID with correct address, PO box is not acceptable, and power bills, if you look inside, will identify if the address is zoned commercial.

Check the description of the voter, including year of birth. Some folks vote 2x by using deceased parent's info. Count the total number of people coming into the polling place. Verify with Election Supervisor that your count and theirs, plus absentee are the total number of votes cast. If not, raise hell.

The list should also note names of people who requested absentee ballots. If someone claims to have not voted absentee who made that request, they must hand in their unused absentee ballot, or vote on a provisional ballot (in FL) Voters must swear out an affidavit that the info they are giving is true (when it doesn't match list) and they are subject to $5000.00 fine for attempted fraud if it isn't.

Also in FL, if someone requests assistance with voting apparatus, two people form two different parties must provide help together.

In the same way that you are prohibited from identifying your afiliation with any particular party (pins on clothing, t-shirts, etc.) so are any other people in the polling place, including Dem lawyers there to offer assistance from the "about to be disenfranchised" voter. If anyone unofficial identifies themselves by word, deed or sign as representing a particular party, they remain 50 ft. from the door of the polling place...have them ejected. It's your right.

49 posted on 11/01/2002 6:22:01 AM PST by Dutchgirl
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To: Mudboy Slim
Not this year, my FRiend...NOT THIS YEAR!!!

You know something we all don't know ??

Already got one up on the GOP in NJ
50 posted on 11/01/2002 6:55:29 AM PST by uncbob
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To: PhiKapMom; scholar; ForGod'sSake
"Please contact your State GOP Chairman if you find evidence of any fraud in your state and do it immediately after witnessing."

Not just a good idea.
Not just sage sage advise, either.

...DOING SO IS OUR DUTY!

51 posted on 11/01/2002 6:57:51 AM PST by Landru
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To: uncbob
"You know something we all don't know??"

More than likely, my FRiend.

"Already got one up on the GOP in NJ"

Lautenburg's TOAST on Tuesday...and you can quote me on that...MUD

52 posted on 11/01/2002 7:18:33 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: PhiKapMom
Right-on !!

Be Ever Vigilant !!

The RATS Are In Disarray...Eradicate The Rodents !!

Fire Democrats, Hire Republicans !!

GWB Is The Man !!

The Second Amendment...
America's Original Homeland Security !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Let's Roll !!

Molon Labe !!

53 posted on 11/01/2002 8:47:47 AM PST by blackie
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To: Mudboy Slim
Lautenburg's TOAST on Tuesday...and you can quote me on that...MUD

Yeag right I quote you and people ask MUDBOY WHOOOO ?
54 posted on 11/01/2002 1:29:58 PM PST by uncbob
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To: mathluv
You're so correct. The judges are the key. If they lean left, it doesn't matter who's President. A left Supreme Court would be the demise of our country, IMO.
55 posted on 11/01/2002 2:37:10 PM PST by Gracey
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To: mathluv
Actually, election clerks get paid, can talk, sit down..and are part of the hands on process. I never understand poll watchers....would rather work as a clerk.
56 posted on 11/01/2002 2:38:12 PM PST by Gracey
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To: PhiKapMom
That is exactly the plan of the DNC. They saw how well this worked in Florida to the point where some people actually believe that Bush stole the election! The exact opposite of what was happening there. They are destroying the integrity of the election process, and worse yet, they are getting off scott free doing it! Who would ever have believed we would have foreign monitors in one of our elections?
57 posted on 11/01/2002 2:42:56 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: ladyinred
They are destroying the integrity of the election process, and worse yet, they are getting off scott free doing it!

That's because they have a compliant news media on their side who KNOW what is going on but don't care cause they are all left wing themselves

In Russia Pravda was a government controlled outlet. Here the press does it willingly

And as long as the journalism and television majors in college are all taught by lefties I don't see any hope

If it wasn't for Talk Radio we would have been long gone
58 posted on 11/01/2002 2:54:32 PM PST by uncbob
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To: ladyinred
The Clinton DemocRAT Party has sunk so low I am not sure that anyone can do much about it except keep voting Clintonites out of office! They have no shame as witnessed on Tuesday night!
59 posted on 11/01/2002 3:03:44 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom
Please contact your State GOP Chairman if you find evidence of any fraud in your state and do it immediately after witnessing.

Just in case Florida Republicans need any more motivation (ha):

"Bill McBride is of the same ilk as Bill Clinton. I am of the same ilk as my brother." - Jeb Bush, St. Pete Times, Oct. 14,  2002
 
"A great people must spend time on bended knee, in humility, searching for wisdom in the presence of the Almighty." - President George W. Bush

60 posted on 11/01/2002 5:13:42 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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