Posted on 10/31/2002 7:15:56 AM PST by madfly
U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo says the Democratic and Republican parties are key obstacles to solving America's illegal immigration crisis. "Democrats want it for votes. Republicans want it for cheap labor," Tancredo said. "Therefore it is desirable to have people coming across illegally." The Littleton Republican, who has helped ignite a national debate on immigration, said the United States must decide whether it wants a border it is willing to enforce. He made his comments Wednesday during an immigration debate on The Aaron Harber Show at KBDI-Channel 12. Also appearing on the show was former Colorado governor Dick Lamm, a Democrat who for years has sounded the alarm about the effects of mass immigration to the United States. He said Colorado's growth debate is really an immigration debate. On the other side of the issue were immigration attorney Donna Lipinski and Estevan Flores, a sociology professor at the University of Colorado at Denver and the executive director of the Latino Research Council. Flores said it is impossible to stop illegal immigration as long as Mexico and United States exist side by side and have such disparate economies. "Alan Greenspan, the noted economist, pointed out the boom of the '90s was supported by immigrant laborers and illegal workers," Flores said. "You can't have it both ways." Lipinski said she repeatedly talks to employers who say they can't find workers - a statement Tancredo couldn't wait to refute. "They only give you half the line really," he said. "The rest of that sentence should be, 'We can't find workers at what we are willing to pay.'" The panelists found common ground in some areas: The Department of Immigration and Naturalization needs to be reformed, and the United States should explore "guest worker" programs. Lamm said the advantage of such programs is workers would come but their families would stay behind so schools would not be impacted. Lamm and Tancredo were critical of the United States for granting amnesty to illegal immigrants several years ago without having a secure border in place to stop the flow of more undocumented workers. Tancredo said he opposes granting another blanket amnesty to the 10 million or so illegal immigrants in the United States because it sends the wrong message. "Why would you go through all the brain damage to come here legally when it's so easy to come here illegally?" he asked. Lipinski said it's not as easy as Tancredo claims, pointing out numerous deaths of Mexicans trying to cross the border. But Tancredo said his office works with hundreds of people trying to handle immigration problems legally, through green cards or visas. "Do you know what I should tell them? 'Do you know there's an easier way? Sneak into the country. Because if you do it the right way, you're really kind of a sucker because eventually we're going to give amnesty to everyone,'" he said. |
The Social Security administration apparently has a program under way to facilitate this process for all these people who, by their own admission, broke our laws twice. The SS Administration is putting on a series of weekend programs at Washington, D.C. public libraries to explain to people how to go about this consolidation of accounts process.
Some of these people who were calling in had used three or four false Social Security numbers, some of which were assigned to American citizens who are still alive and working in our economy. One guy wanted to know how he could get credit for all of the Social Security quarters that the person whose stolen SS # he used had accrued. It would behoove everyone to check up on their Social Security records regularly to make sure they have not be edged out by an illegal immigrant.
I fail to see why the families would stay away from the US. If both parents become "guest workers," they may have more children when they are here, and they would want to keep their family intact. Unless we withheld free education/healthcare/WIC/school-lunch/etc. and automatic citizenship, none of which seems likely with our current government members (besides Tancredo), the "guest workers" would have no incentive to keep their children with the grandparents in their home country.
The SSA now mails statements of accrued credits, so that helps verify one's contributions. I was surprised to get my statement from the SSA some days ago.
Amen. Imagine that an illegal steals your SSN, then fills out a W-2 as exempt. There will be no federal withholding credited to your number, but all the earnings will go on your record. You'd be on the hook for all the federal income tax on those earnings, plus you might get thrown into a higher tax bracket on your legitimate earnings. Oh, but these illegals don't harm anyone, they just want to help their families!!!!
Maybe they were caught hiring illegals. The link below allows people to run checks anywhere in the U.S.A. to see who and what businesses have been fined for violations.
http://www.cis.org/sanctions
They can hurt you more than that ---they can commit crimes and your Social Security number is used and you'll fail background checks, they can ruin your credit by applying for credit cards with your Social Security number. I don't know why Bush doesn't see this as a serious crime.
It's completely foolish for anyone to believe these people are here to save Social Security, they are here to get in on it, if they can't get in on that, they'll get in on SSI and welfare. You rarely see a Hispanic immigrant working past 62 years of age, and many have expensive health problems by then.
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