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Politics blamed for porous borders: Tancredo says Dems, GOP gain from illegals
Rocky Mountain News ^ | Oct. 31, 2002 | Lynn Bartels

Posted on 10/31/2002 7:15:56 AM PST by madfly

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To: MissAmericanPie
That's just the tip of the Social Security situation. I listen to a Spanish language FM station on the way to work in the morning. Yesterday they had this long call-in segment regarding Social Security. The main thrust of the questions were asked by people who had come here illegally and worked using false Social Security numbers. They were calling in to find out how to consolidate their Social Security accounts now that they have received amnesty ("regularized their immigration status") and have been assigned a legally valid Social Security number. They want to make sure they get the maximum payout.

The Social Security administration apparently has a program under way to facilitate this process for all these people who, by their own admission, broke our laws twice. The SS Administration is putting on a series of weekend programs at Washington, D.C. public libraries to explain to people how to go about this consolidation of accounts process.

Some of these people who were calling in had used three or four false Social Security numbers, some of which were assigned to American citizens who are still alive and working in our economy. One guy wanted to know how he could get credit for all of the Social Security quarters that the person whose stolen SS # he used had accrued. It would behoove everyone to check up on their Social Security records regularly to make sure they have not be edged out by an illegal immigrant.

21 posted on 10/31/2002 8:43:00 AM PST by 3AngelaD
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22 posted on 10/31/2002 9:48:51 AM PST by madfly
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explore "guest worker" programs.
Lamm said the advantage of such programs is workers would come but their families would stay behind so schools would not be impacted.

I fail to see why the families would stay away from the US. If both parents become "guest workers," they may have more children when they are here, and they would want to keep their family intact. Unless we withheld free education/healthcare/WIC/school-lunch/etc. and automatic citizenship, none of which seems likely with our current government members (besides Tancredo), the "guest workers" would have no incentive to keep their children with the grandparents in their home country.

23 posted on 11/01/2002 12:34:13 AM PST by heleny
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To: 3AngelaD
check up on their Social Security records regularly to make sure they have not be edged out by an illegal immigrant.

The SSA now mails statements of accrued credits, so that helps verify one's contributions. I was surprised to get my statement from the SSA some days ago.

24 posted on 11/01/2002 12:37:33 AM PST by heleny
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To: 3AngelaD
It would behoove everyone to check up on their Social Security records regularly to make sure they have not be edged out by an illegal immigrant.

Amen. Imagine that an illegal steals your SSN, then fills out a W-2 as exempt. There will be no federal withholding credited to your number, but all the earnings will go on your record. You'd be on the hook for all the federal income tax on those earnings, plus you might get thrown into a higher tax bracket on your legitimate earnings. Oh, but these illegals don't harm anyone, they just want to help their families!!!!

25 posted on 11/01/2002 5:43:31 AM PST by Pa' fuera
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To: MissAmericanPie
"Over night it seems that these workers are vanishing from a great number of fast food places to be replaced by teen agers earning their first pay checks"

Maybe they were caught hiring illegals. The link below allows people to run checks anywhere in the U.S.A. to see who and what businesses have been fined for violations.

http://www.cis.org/sanctions

26 posted on 11/01/2002 6:05:45 AM PST by aeronca
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Imagine that an illegal steals your SSN

They can hurt you more than that ---they can commit crimes and your Social Security number is used and you'll fail background checks, they can ruin your credit by applying for credit cards with your Social Security number. I don't know why Bush doesn't see this as a serious crime.

27 posted on 11/01/2002 6:15:36 AM PST by FITZ
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Note: (Post #26) if you run a search, just select your state and county and leave the rest of the fields blank. Just to get an idea of those in the entire state who got caught.
28 posted on 11/01/2002 6:15:48 AM PST by aeronca
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To: 3AngelaD
They want to make sure they get the maximum payout.

It's completely foolish for anyone to believe these people are here to save Social Security, they are here to get in on it, if they can't get in on that, they'll get in on SSI and welfare. You rarely see a Hispanic immigrant working past 62 years of age, and many have expensive health problems by then.

29 posted on 11/01/2002 6:22:53 AM PST by FITZ
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To: aeronca
Thanks so much, what a handy idea, I'll check it out.
30 posted on 11/01/2002 6:49:30 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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