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Gun-Toting Students Show More Risky Behaviors
Reuters Health via Yahoo ^ | 10-28-02 | Alison McCook

Posted on 10/28/2002 12:58:34 PM PST by Pharmboy

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And, students who owned guns were MUCH more likely to question the idiotic points of view that their liberal socialist professors have. Pity.
1 posted on 10/28/2002 12:58:35 PM PST by Pharmboy
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When I see/hear that teens in particular are engaged in violent behavior the first thing that comes to my mind is mood-altering meds.
2 posted on 10/28/2002 1:04:08 PM PST by hsmomx3
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of course tha vast majority of college gun owners (the intelligent ones) leave their guns to home, or simply deny owning them, and are thusly not counted in this pseudo research.
3 posted on 10/28/2002 1:04:24 PM PST by camle
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"I suspect that many administrators are surprised that, on average, across the US 4% of students have guns," Miller told Reuters Health in an interview.

I'd be surprised that the number is that low.
4 posted on 10/28/2002 1:06:18 PM PST by cryptical
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I wonder if the study controlled for gang-bangers who "own" guns that they acquired illegally.
5 posted on 10/28/2002 1:06:39 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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Darn - I grew up in the NRA and have been around/owned guns all my life (50 years) and haven't done any crack cocaine or even shot at a person. I must be a slow learner...

Who in the HECK do they PAY to come up with some of these results????

6 posted on 10/28/2002 1:07:44 PM PST by trebb
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To: dd5339; cavtrooper21
yet another barf alert
7 posted on 10/28/2002 1:07:51 PM PST by Vic3O3
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To: *bang_list
Bang
8 posted on 10/28/2002 1:09:03 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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The authors discovered that gun-owners in college were most often white men who lived off campus with a significant other.

Interesting that this is the only place where race is mentioned in the article. Specifically there is no mention of racial correlations with the "activities" such as smoking crack, only with gun ownership in general. When reading such articles, the most important thing one ought notice is what is not said.

9 posted on 10/28/2002 1:10:49 PM PST by per loin
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Alternatively, the researcher suggested that some gun-owners may become "emboldened" by their weapons, and may consequently act in ways they would not if they didn't own guns.

As this poor excuse for a study shows no causality whatsoever, this can best be described as one-man's opinion. This is a perfect example of the 'Post Hoc Ergo Procto Hoc' logical falicy.

10 posted on 10/28/2002 1:11:50 PM PST by asformeandformyhouse
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Gun-owning college students also tended to have more exposure to guns and gun violence than those who did not own firearms, the authors report

In a related study, it was revealed that college students who repeatedly shop in "big & tall" clothing stores tend to have more exposure to bigness and tallness than those who do not, and tend to exhibit those traits. The research did not address the reasons behind this trend.

11 posted on 10/28/2002 1:13:48 PM PST by Sloth
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12 posted on 10/28/2002 1:35:36 PM PST by Joe Brower
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The authors discovered that gun-owners in college were most often white men who lived off campus with a significant other.

Well, this stupid survey just raised the race card, so I'll see them and raise them a buck. Why was there no racial breakout of the problem gun owners versus the ones without these problems? I think I know the answer to that one.

13 posted on 10/28/2002 1:38:47 PM PST by dirtboy
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The researcher said that he hopes these results inspire administrators to investigate further what compels students to bring guns to college, and how this tendency might have an impact on violence committed on college campuses.

Fat chance this "study" will do anything other than cause college administrators to place greater emphasis on how they will penalize students found to have guns.

The issue of real crime won't be mentioned (can we say assault on campus, boy and girls?) College security departments tend to hide information about "real" crime on campus (not good for student recruiting.)

14 posted on 10/28/2002 1:46:34 PM PST by toddst
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Break this down by economic class, and then we'll see what the numbers look like. I'll bet that, black or white, the kids from the lower economic classes are on average more likely to own guns AND more likely to get into trouble, but within each economic stratum, guns and trouble are not strongly correlated.
15 posted on 10/28/2002 1:47:19 PM PST by Physicist
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Students were also more likely to own guns if they were attending college in a part of the country where gun ownership was more common in the general population.

Stunning.

16 posted on 10/28/2002 1:48:47 PM PST by dead
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Dr. Matthew Miller of Harvard University in Boston

Well, there's the problem! This isn't a "study" its a propaganda tool. 4%. I'm willing to bet that there is NO statistical correlation of student gun ownership to ANY of the so-called behaviors listed by the 'good' professor. Considering that college students drink a lot, and want to have sex a lot, and maybe use drugs a lot, if you flatten out the results from the other 96% of students, you get - nothing. The worst part of this is that the so-called journalists just go along with anything that fits their preconceived bias'.

17 posted on 10/28/2002 1:49:42 PM PST by 45Auto
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students who owned guns for protection were more likely to be threatened with a gun at college.

This is absolute nonsense. A better question might be, "Of those who brought a gun to campus, how many were victims of rape in the last year?"

18 posted on 10/28/2002 1:51:40 PM PST by 45Auto
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like Ritilan, etc?
19 posted on 10/28/2002 1:56:00 PM PST by Khepera
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And what does this prove? Nothing.
20 posted on 10/28/2002 2:05:17 PM PST by King Nothing
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