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Carr jurors get break as deliberation rules ironed out [Wichita Massacre]
The Wichita Eagle ^ | 10/28/02 | Ron Sylvester

Posted on 10/28/2002 12:20:18 PM PST by KS Flyover

Carr jurors get break as deliberation rules ironed out

While jurors take the day off from testimony, lawyers and the judge will be working today in the capital murder trial of Jonathan and Reginald Carr.

Testimony has recessed until Tuesday because of scheduling with an out-of-town expert for Reginald Carr's defense. Jonathan Carr's defense doesn't plan to call any witnesses. The state rested its case Friday morning.

Prosecutors, the defense and Judge Paul Clark will work today on trying to finalize jury instructions. Before the trial ends, the judge will give jurors printed instructions outlining the laws they must follow in deliberations.

The instructions are expected to be lengthy, as they detail each of the 113 combined criminal counts facing each of the Dodge City brothers, including those involved with a quadruple homicide Dec 15, 2000.

Clark has already agreed to consider offering the jury options of several lesser charges, such as first- or second-degree murder instead of capital murder.

If found guilty of capital murder, the Carrs could face the death penalty. The jury would decide that after hearing further evidence.

Tuesday, the defense is expected to call Reginald Carr's estranged wife, Mandy Carr of Dodge City. Lawyer Jay Greeno on Friday told the court he expects Mandy Carr to testify that two remote controls found in Reginald Carr's automobile belonged to her. The white Plymouth also contained items belonging to the victims of the quadruple homicide.

The defense then plans to call its own DNA expert to dispute some findings by the Kansas Bureau of Investigation.

Closing arguments are expected Tuesday or Wednesday.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: carr; kansas; wichita; wichitamassacre
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1 posted on 10/28/2002 12:20:18 PM PST by KS Flyover
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2 posted on 10/28/2002 12:22:03 PM PST by KS Flyover
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To: KS Flyover
The death of these animals should not be humane.

Take them in the street and beat their brains in with a hammer.

3 posted on 10/28/2002 12:39:41 PM PST by DAnconia55
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To: DAnconia55
It'd be over too quick.
4 posted on 10/28/2002 12:41:46 PM PST by Governor
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To: KS Flyover
"...told the court he expects Mandy Carr to testify that two remote controls found in Reginald Carr's automobile belonged to her."

I can't believe they would waste time debating this or having a witness testify. Who the HELL cares who the remote controls belong to?

5 posted on 10/28/2002 1:06:49 PM PST by 1riot1ranger
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To: Governor
You are right. Everyone in the state would want to get a whack in for good measure. Lets drag in out a little longer. Make 'em hurt for a long time!
6 posted on 10/28/2002 1:10:08 PM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: KS Flyover
Please add my name to your list.
7 posted on 10/28/2002 1:34:01 PM PST by Misty Memory
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To: Misty Memory
I've got you added, MM.
8 posted on 10/28/2002 1:58:27 PM PST by KS Flyover
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To: KS Flyover
bttt
9 posted on 10/28/2002 2:47:47 PM PST by Rightly Biased
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To: Governor
Tie their peckers together and throw them on a barbed wire fence!
10 posted on 10/28/2002 3:13:17 PM PST by Illwind
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To: All
WARNING! I probably shouldn't post this, but I will.

I don't think that this has been posted, but, both young women were forced to perform oral sex upon each other. I won't use the language that these beasts were using, it's very graphic. The young man that was going to be a priest refused to perform sex on HG, (the living witness) so one brother hit him on the head with the gun and gave him until 11:54 pm to perform. He was unable to get an erection, so the beast started counting down, 11:52, 11:53, etc. Then, he was beaten with the golf club. MY BLOOD IS BOILING!

11 posted on 10/28/2002 3:38:12 PM PST by IamHD
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To: KS Flyover
To repeat some points from from an earlier post of mine: I think we best prepare ourselves for a bitter dissapointment here. The description of the jury does not look promising. There are a fair number of people there who "have no opinion" on the death penalty ("moderates," I guess), and one of the two black jurors made a blatantly prejudicial remark about how unhappy he was about black males being in prison - which should have automatically disqualified him. A number of black and leftist groups openly advocate their members getting on juries to thwart any convictions for non-white perpetrators. (As they are from the "oppressed" they are incapable of being fully responsible for crimes - it's all the fault of "institutional racism" - or so the argument goes.) Note also how the judge has given the jury the option to convict of lesser charges - a perfect opportunity for a leftist activist in the jury to sway gullible jurors while allowing them to feel they brought some form of justice to the victims. Kansas hasn't executed anyone in nearly 30 years, despite the death penalty being on the books. In any state with a long hiatus in executions, there will be a 10-15 year series of appeals going all the way up to the US Supreme Court for any death penalty case. Leftist advocacy groups such as the SPLC, ACLU, ADL, and NAACP have the money and legal staff to appeal every single capital case to the supreme court, which is essentially what has happened in the past 20 years. To make matters worse, it's now looking like a leftist fellow traveller (Sebelius) could very well be the next governor of KS. The left, who virtually controls the legal profession in this country (many law schools have systematically rooted out any conservative students for years), has a long-standing goal of abolishing capital punishment. Realizing that the death penalty retains popularity among the general public, politicians with "progressive" sympathies are quite willing to leave it on the books while no one is ever actually executed due to an endless series of appeals, legal manipulation, etc. This view is widely held even among allegedly "conservative" judges, prosecutors, and lawyers. Despite the overwhelming evidence, my guess is that the Carrs will end up with life in prison (on appeal) even if they are convicted of capital murder. While an acquittal is unlikely, the possibility of conviction on a lesser charge is quite real for the reasons stated above. I hope and pray I'm wrong, but the cultural PC rot runs deep - even in places like KS. This is why it is so very important to vote in every election and pay attention even to the races for state representative and senator - not to mention any elected judges.
12 posted on 10/28/2002 3:43:37 PM PST by Bogolyubski
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To: KS Flyover
bump
13 posted on 10/28/2002 8:35:04 PM PST by VOA
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