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Professor "Quits" After Anti-Gun Book Found Fraudulent
Washington Times ^
| 10/28/02
Posted on 10/28/2002 8:54:26 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
Edited on 07/12/2004 3:58:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Michael Bellesiles, the history professor who wrote that firearms were rare in early America, has resigned from Atlanta's Emory University after an investigation found he "willingly misrepresented the evidence" in his award-winning book.
The three-person committee
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TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: academicfraud; armingamerica; bancroftaward; banglist; bellesiles; emory; guncontrol; lindgren
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To: wideawake
What do you get if you cut one million bras in half????
Two million beanies with chin straps.
Nam Vet
41
posted on
10/28/2002 10:04:42 AM PST
by
Nam Vet
To: 11th Earl of Mar
Liar, liar, pants on fire!!!
To: Fzob
"I have never consciously misrepresented any data or evidence.Doesn't someone need to be 'conscious' before they can consciously do anything.
Or is that, they have to HAVE a 'conscience' before they can consciously do anything.
Either way this man loses.
To: Eric in the Ozarks
"I'm surprised this wasn't announced late Friday after most of the weekend papers were made up. It WAS announced late Friday...
To: Eric in the Ozarks
after most of the weekend papers were made up. FYI... Most weekday papers are also made up, along with the evening news.
To: 11th Earl of Mar
...a research fellowship Mr. Bellesiles had received and which he is using to conduct research for his next book His next book, of course, is "Pink, White & Blue" which reveals that all of the Founding Fathers were flamboyant, effeminate, militant homosexuals. This groundbreaking research uses a novel interpretation of handwriting samples, cadastral maps and dental impressions.
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posted on
10/28/2002 10:28:33 AM PST
by
Sloth
To: wideawake
I don't know... I think cows only have one udder apiece.
47
posted on
10/28/2002 10:34:34 AM PST
by
Sloth
To: Nam Vet; Sloth
LOL
To: 11th Earl of Mar
Mr. Bellesiles' responses to the charges of research misconduct were "confusing, evasive and occasionally contradictory," the committee said. Sounds like ALL liberals who attempt to defend their beliefs with facts, statistics, or evidence.
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posted on
10/28/2002 10:42:15 AM PST
by
1Old Pro
To: Swordmaker
Can I call em or can I call em ?
To: CWRWinger
This firearms "expert" should go to work for Terence McAuliffe. He has proved that he will say anything, write anything, fabricate anything, do anything for the success of the liberal point of view. He could also run for Congress in 2004. Sarah Brady could assist him with fundraising.
To: philetus
The university allowed him to quit.
In truth he was fired.
It wasn't so much that he lied, but that he got caught.
Would the University have kept Bellesiles on had he not resigned? Resigning implies that what Bellesiles did was not bad enough to fire him. In other words, Emory doesn't think what Bellesiles did was all that wrong. That's the message I get. That discredits Bellesiles as much as Emory. Emory failed to act in accordance with upholding honesty. Bellesiles can imply that he is taking the high ground yet he negates that claming he can't bring himself to work in a hostile environment. If it is a hostile environment it warrants Emory firing him. You may be right that Emory effectively fired Bellesiles, but if so, Emory shot itself in the foot by not standing on the honest principle by stating that they were right to fire Bellesiles. How can Emory claim that they allowed Bellesiles to "save face" by resigning knowing that he would attack Emory as being a hostile environment.
They both screwed up and shirk their responsibility to honesty.
More important is the role the Internet and WWW had in exposing the fraud. That trend will continue a geometric increase, not linear.
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posted on
10/28/2002 11:29:19 AM PST
by
Zon
To: 11th Earl of Mar
I'm happy to see that at least a few folks at universities have vestigial backbones. They must have been very, very alarmed at what Michael Bellesiles did.
Maybe this will serve as a warning for other lying cockroaches that are lurking in the Halls of Ivy.
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posted on
10/28/2002 11:30:01 AM PST
by
syriacus
To: syriacus
They must have been very, very alarmed at what Michael Bellesiles did.Yes terrified that he got caught lying. After all if you can't lie about gun control at Emory University, where can you lie about it? (hint CDC, New England Journal of Medicine, AMA Journal all come to mind)
To: 11th Earl of Mar
It seems the esteemed Prof forgot about a contemporary account from the British and King George the III.
It seems that the troops had a small shooting contest (I'm paraphrasing it here, obviously, before the nit-pickers go nuts.):)
Well, the redcoats had the "Big Bess" rifle that was lucky if it was accurate to 75 yards.
The Colonials had what was called "squirrel guns" that could hit a dinner plate at 200 yards. Quite an accomplishment in gun tech at the time.
Well, the British Troops lost, and King George said,"Not fair, that's an 'assault weapon'."
So, King George invented the"Assault Weapon" lie, and was promptly kicked from America's shores for his efforts at redistibuting the wealth in taxes and eliminating 'assault weapons'.
(A man's ability to hunt and farm kept him alive, not to mention defending his home from HOSTILE NATIVES attacking settlements. Ooops, the good prof forgot that too.)
To: 11th Earl of Mar
>>Now we know what Peter Jennings's lead story will be tonight.
Laurie Dhue did a short item on this yesterday afternoon on FNC. Go Fox! (Hmmm - that works on a couple of levels)
To: Zon
My guess is, had he not quit, slinked off, crawled away, Emory would have assembled a disciplinary committee and they would have completed a review over the next, say, two years, then would have issued a position paper with recommedations for disciplinary action which would have consisted of a couple of well-placed tsk, tsks in his sorry personnel file.
He is just another lefty loser and this is sweet justice...he can cry that he did nothing wrong 'till the cows come home; we know what a lying piece of crap he is and always will be.
To: Darksheare
The good professor would have us believe that back in the Colonial days, the settlers used the highly effective "Jimmy Carter Technique" for dealing with those pesky redskins and redcoats.
To: dd5339; cavtrooper21
OohRah!
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posted on
10/28/2002 1:22:43 PM PST
by
Vic3O3
To: Cuttnhorse
Emory University discredited themselves by not firing Bellesiles. That was the main point of post
52. Bellesiles was toast either way -- no college would touch his resume with a ten-foot pole. Had Emory extended the charade as you suggest as an alternative, it would have discredited Emory just as bad, if not worse. IMO, Emory chose what they believed was the lesser of "evils" while ignoring or disregarding a stand on honest principle.
It will be interesting to see what the committee that gave Bellesiles Bancroft Award based on his fraudulent book will do or has to say.
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posted on
10/28/2002 1:44:13 PM PST
by
Zon
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