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Professor "Quits" After Anti-Gun Book Found Fraudulent
Washington Times ^ | 10/28/02

Posted on 10/28/2002 8:54:26 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:58:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: wideawake
What do you get if you cut one million bras in half????

Two million beanies with chin straps.

Nam Vet

41 posted on 10/28/2002 10:04:42 AM PST by Nam Vet
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Liar, liar, pants on fire!!!
42 posted on 10/28/2002 10:08:47 AM PST by SwinneySwitch
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To: Fzob
"I have never consciously misrepresented any data or evidence.

Doesn't someone need to be 'conscious' before they can consciously do anything.
Or is that, they have to HAVE a 'conscience' before they can consciously do anything.
Either way this man loses.

43 posted on 10/28/2002 10:19:48 AM PST by Just another Joe
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"I'm surprised this wasn't announced late Friday after most of the weekend papers were made up.

It WAS announced late Friday...

44 posted on 10/28/2002 10:20:23 AM PST by Swordmaker
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
after most of the weekend papers were made up.

FYI... Most weekday papers are also made up, along with the evening news.

45 posted on 10/28/2002 10:25:04 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
...a research fellowship Mr. Bellesiles had received and which he is using to conduct research for his next book

His next book, of course, is "Pink, White & Blue" which reveals that all of the Founding Fathers were flamboyant, effeminate, militant homosexuals. This groundbreaking research uses a novel interpretation of handwriting samples, cadastral maps and dental impressions.

46 posted on 10/28/2002 10:28:33 AM PST by Sloth
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To: wideawake
I don't know... I think cows only have one udder apiece.
47 posted on 10/28/2002 10:34:34 AM PST by Sloth
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To: Nam Vet; Sloth
LOL
48 posted on 10/28/2002 10:37:48 AM PST by wideawake
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Mr. Bellesiles' responses to the charges of research misconduct were "confusing, evasive and occasionally contradictory," the committee said.

Sounds like ALL liberals who attempt to defend their beliefs with facts, statistics, or evidence.

49 posted on 10/28/2002 10:42:15 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Swordmaker
Can I call em or can I call em ?
50 posted on 10/28/2002 10:53:31 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: CWRWinger
This firearms "expert" should go to work for Terence McAuliffe. He has proved that he will say anything, write anything, fabricate anything, do anything for the success of the liberal point of view. He could also run for Congress in 2004. Sarah Brady could assist him with fundraising.
51 posted on 10/28/2002 11:11:41 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: philetus

The university allowed him to quit.
In truth he was fired.
It wasn't so much that he lied, but that he got caught.

Would the University have kept Bellesiles on had he not resigned? Resigning implies that what Bellesiles did was not bad enough to fire him. In other words, Emory doesn't think what Bellesiles did was all that wrong. That's the message I get. That discredits Bellesiles as much as Emory. Emory failed to act in accordance with upholding honesty. Bellesiles can imply that he is taking the high ground yet he negates that claming he can't bring himself to work in a hostile environment. If it is a hostile environment it warrants Emory firing him. You may be right that Emory effectively fired Bellesiles, but if so, Emory shot itself in the foot by not standing on the honest principle by stating that they were right to fire Bellesiles. How can Emory claim that they allowed Bellesiles to "save face" by resigning knowing that he would attack Emory as being a hostile environment.

They both screwed up and shirk their responsibility to honesty.

More important is the role the Internet and WWW had in exposing the fraud. That trend will continue a geometric increase, not linear.

 

52 posted on 10/28/2002 11:29:19 AM PST by Zon
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
I'm happy to see that at least a few folks at universities have vestigial backbones. They must have been very, very alarmed at what Michael Bellesiles did.

Maybe this will serve as a warning for other lying cockroaches that are lurking in the Halls of Ivy.

53 posted on 10/28/2002 11:30:01 AM PST by syriacus
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To: syriacus
They must have been very, very alarmed at what Michael Bellesiles did.

Yes terrified that he got caught lying. After all if you can't lie about gun control at Emory University, where can you lie about it? (hint CDC, New England Journal of Medicine, AMA Journal all come to mind)

54 posted on 10/28/2002 11:46:46 AM PST by from occupied ga
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
It seems the esteemed Prof forgot about a contemporary account from the British and King George the III.
It seems that the troops had a small shooting contest (I'm paraphrasing it here, obviously, before the nit-pickers go nuts.):)
Well, the redcoats had the "Big Bess" rifle that was lucky if it was accurate to 75 yards.
The Colonials had what was called "squirrel guns" that could hit a dinner plate at 200 yards. Quite an accomplishment in gun tech at the time.
Well, the British Troops lost, and King George said,"Not fair, that's an 'assault weapon'."
So, King George invented the"Assault Weapon" lie, and was promptly kicked from America's shores for his efforts at redistibuting the wealth in taxes and eliminating 'assault weapons'.
(A man's ability to hunt and farm kept him alive, not to mention defending his home from HOSTILE NATIVES attacking settlements. Ooops, the good prof forgot that too.)
55 posted on 10/28/2002 11:56:30 AM PST by Darksheare
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
>>Now we know what Peter Jennings's lead story will be tonight.

Laurie Dhue did a short item on this yesterday afternoon on FNC. Go Fox! (Hmmm - that works on a couple of levels)

56 posted on 10/28/2002 12:01:44 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: Zon
My guess is, had he not quit, slinked off, crawled away, Emory would have assembled a disciplinary committee and they would have completed a review over the next, say, two years, then would have issued a position paper with recommedations for disciplinary action which would have consisted of a couple of well-placed tsk, tsks in his sorry personnel file.

He is just another lefty loser and this is sweet justice...he can cry that he did nothing wrong 'till the cows come home; we know what a lying piece of crap he is and always will be.
57 posted on 10/28/2002 12:26:20 PM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: Darksheare
The good professor would have us believe that back in the Colonial days, the settlers used the highly effective "Jimmy Carter Technique" for dealing with those pesky redskins and redcoats.
58 posted on 10/28/2002 12:35:58 PM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: dd5339; cavtrooper21
OohRah!
59 posted on 10/28/2002 1:22:43 PM PST by Vic3O3
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To: Cuttnhorse
Emory University discredited themselves by not firing Bellesiles. That was the main point of post 52. Bellesiles was toast either way -- no college would touch his resume with a ten-foot pole. Had Emory extended the charade as you suggest as an alternative, it would have discredited Emory just as bad, if not worse. IMO, Emory chose what they believed was the lesser of "evils" while ignoring or disregarding a stand on honest principle.

It will be interesting to see what the committee that gave Bellesiles Bancroft Award based on his fraudulent book will do or has to say.

60 posted on 10/28/2002 1:44:13 PM PST by Zon
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