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To: icwhatudo; Grampa Dave; Pete; AEMILIUS PAULUS; nanny; Asmodeus; LibWhacker; John Jamieson; ...
In June, Muhammad planned sniper shootings of a gas truck, and a police officer. He also planned to bomb the police funeral. By September his plans changed to (random?) sniper killings.

So here are my collections of the facts and assumptions:


31 posted on 10/28/2002 9:48:58 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: FL_engineer
This guy has apparently had a long history of hatred for authority.
34 posted on 10/28/2002 9:52:30 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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Fl, this is a great job of documentation of the events and a probable time line of the critical events.

Thanks for your efforts and the ping!
40 posted on 10/28/2002 10:12:31 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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Nice synopsis. Thanks. Floored by the revelation that police had a description of this vehicle on OCT7, ran its plates 10 TIMES in the vicinity of the shootings, and there were CLEARLY VISIBLE GUN PORTS in the trunk (the gun ports are EXACTLY the sort of thing authorities should've been on the lookout for).

This goes way beyond incompetence, imo. It's willful, reckless, negligence.

44 posted on 10/28/2002 10:19:03 AM PST by LibWhacker
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September 14- Thinking they've killed someone at the liquor store, terrorists leave immediately for a planned two-week training at "Ground Zero" camp in Marion, Alabama. The terrorist training manuals teach shooters to lay down and fire backwards out of a vehicle (like a flatbed truck). with another person driving away slowly. This later turns out to be exactly the technique used around D.C.

I'm not sure that will ever be proved, although it would explain what they were doing in Alabama, and the different MO used in the later shootings. LE is apparently very defensive of Camp Ground Zero -- in spite of its links to foreign terrorists -- since the owner insists the camp "trains law enforcement and security personnel."

On the night of the arrests, Fox asked one of their military experts (Hunt) about Ground Zero, and he was sputtering: "It's just a civilian shooting range -- anybody can shoot there. Nothing to that."

47 posted on 10/28/2002 10:30:22 AM PST by browardchad
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To: FL_engineer
Good stuff. Throw these speculations into the mix:
The Caprice had been formerly used as a police undercover car.(reported as a fact)
Might the sniper perch and hole(s) already been in the car? Perhaps used by the cops to film or surveil?
If so, does it not seem wildly coincidental that Muhammad would stumble across such a vehicle? Might he have been told by someone where to look?
BTW, $250 seems like a ridiculously low price for a running vehicle.
49 posted on 10/28/2002 10:37:59 AM PST by per loin
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Nice piece of analysis, FL_engineer, but how do you explain these 2 idiots' practically begging the incompetent LE bozos to nail them?
58 posted on 10/28/2002 2:23:00 PM PST by GoreLoser
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