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1 posted on 10/28/2002 5:22:36 AM PST by SJackson
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2 posted on 10/28/2002 5:22:53 AM PST by SJackson
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I will not join in the chorus of praises for Chief Moose, head honcho in Montgomery County, Maryland, and the familiar face for overdone press briefings.

I --will-- join in. Had they not caught the guy for two years, or never, Moose would have been called every name in the book. Moose's team caught them. Granted, they caught the snipers because of errors -they- made, but Napoleon preferred luck to brilliance, while noting that the efficient create their own luck.

Walt

3 posted on 10/28/2002 5:31:45 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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I will not join in the chorus of praises for Chief Moose, head honcho in Montgomery County, Maryland, and the familiar face for overdone press briefings. I shall not applaud nor chant his name as the media did. I have fears and foes not vanquished with the arrest of accused snipers, John Muhammad and John Lee Malvo. I'm flummoxed as to how two lug heads ducked the noose for so long.

This is an absurd statement.

This author needs to realize life is not a movie or a tv show. It is just idiotic to think that one man hiding in Virginia/Maryland can be rounded up as easily as criminals are on LAW AND ORDER every Wednesday night.

America/Americans lives in an unreal world. They want the impossible done with the time and ease it takes to order a pre-made burger at McDonalds.

The author goes on to say that with all the criminal records these 2 had, that law enforcement should have just "realized" it. This is probably the stupidest statement I've read in a long time.

Then, the author shows us that maybe she isn't so dumb after all. She is spot on that Homeland Security throw away all the PC mess this country is being dragged down by. The INS needs to be overhauled because it stopped working around 1950.

Muslims living in the United States who are sympathetic to terrorists are problematic. Not facing that harsh reality found us enduring 3 weeks of wild goose chases that cost 11 lives and horrific injuries to 2 others. Death, injury, and living in terror. At least we didn't offend anyone.

For this she gets a bravo and a standing ovation.

5 posted on 10/28/2002 5:49:05 AM PST by carton253
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The Muslim faith may be a peaceful one, as we are assured regularly, but in the past year, 21 people have visited death, destruction and terror on United States soil. All save young Mr. Malvo were of the Muslim faith, and indications are he was leaning that way.

Good stat.

7 posted on 10/28/2002 5:54:42 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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Good article
Thanks for posting it
9 posted on 10/28/2002 5:55:41 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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Had the moronic Muhammad not sent notes, tipped the police that he was involved in the Alabama shooting, and asked for a $10,000,000 deposit on a stolen credit card, we'd still be watching the crawl on Fox News for other stories as the screen showed white vans in the D.C. area. Muhammad called Chief Moose, family, friends, and local priests, begging to be caught, while demanding coverage.

Imagine the damage a smart sniper could do.

13 posted on 10/28/2002 6:02:55 AM PST by PGalt
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This author obviousily does not know squat about police work.

As a civilian, the author cannot imagine the amount of information that was coming in and all that had to be evaluated during this type of crime/terror spree.

The fact that the blue caprice got thru so many roadblocks is a travesty. Somebody down the line was not doing proper 100%searches of vehicles. The individual(s) who were responsible for setting up the roadblocks and not conducting full 100% vehicle searches ought to face consequences.

Their ineptness lead to the prolongation of the terror spree.

I heard Limbaugh and Hannity criticize Chief Moose, I disagree with them. Again they cannot imagine the volume of information coming in, and the difficult job of disseminating it, and co-ordinating multi-agency task forces.

Could Moose have done better, sure. IMO as an individual with 26 years experience in law enforcement at the county and federal levels,He did a tough job very well.

22 posted on 10/28/2002 6:23:02 AM PST by gitmogrunt
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These profilers, Greta, Donahue, and other liberal wonks who condemn profiling with a vengeance, paraded their skills at it for fees and ratings, so long as white males were the targets.

This is all because there is only one profile that may be spoken of on TV--the white male.

28 posted on 10/28/2002 6:53:37 AM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy
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Early in the investigation following the shooting of the 13 year old student, the Tarot Card and a note were found left behind by the murderers/extortionists. We were told about the Tarot card but not the note.

I recently saw samples of the handwriting and the sentence structure from the several written communications that Moose had in his possession during the investigation.

Having taught for three years in two Detroit inner-city all-black schools, and having read essays and homework assignments ad infinitum from my "students", I can tell you that it is EASY to recognize the street language of blacks, or as some refer to it, Eubonics.

Any FBI, ATF, or cop working on this case who had access to those notes should have immediately seen that the suspects they SHOULD have been seeking were black.

In my opinion, several additional victims died needlessly because politically-correct, anti-profiling, BLACK Chief Moose refused to divulge the fact that BLACKS had obviously written the letters.

Moose is the poster-boy for affirmative action. People are inclined to let it slide because, "after all, he's a cop, and who cares. It's not like he's in a vital position!"

Just wait until you're involved in that head-on collison and suffer serious head trauma. They take you directly to the OR where Chief of Surgery Moose is preparing to open your cranium. Good luck!

31 posted on 10/28/2002 7:08:23 AM PST by Doc Savage
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I do believe that unless the snipers had given police all of those clues they would still be at large and some of the blame for that needs to go to this idea of looking only for a "white loner" and a white van. I do give law enforcement credit that once they had the clues supplied by the snipers themselves, they did catch the guys pretty quick (with assists from the public and even the media) but they had little to nothing to go on without the snipers "help" and were going totally in the wrong direction for most of the investigation, thanks to a politically correct "white loner" theory and an incorrect vehicle lookout. The Chevy Caprice lookout (originally burgandy, not blue) was given at the D.C. shooting, but was, for whatever reasons, quickly discounted by police.
33 posted on 10/28/2002 8:26:55 AM PST by Contra
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The FBI should have caught these guys long before Bulwinkle. If you saw 60 minutes last night, you saw another example of why the FBI has become another bloated, relatively ineffective government agency, filled with people who care far more about catching a promotion than catching a criminal. If you don't overhaul an engine periodically it will break down. So much of our government needs overhauling because its broken.
36 posted on 10/28/2002 12:22:57 PM PST by Russell Scott
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