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'If you leave me, I'll kill you and the kids' (Sniper Brother-in-Law's theory)
Tacoma News Tribune ^ | October 26th, 2002 | Rob Carson

Posted on 10/27/2002 3:47:46 AM PST by Sabertooth

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To: Sabertooth
Although interesting I don't really care about his motives. His motives don't diminish the atrocity of his crimes. There is always the tendency to know why someone does this or that; it's human nature. The problem is when we assign those motives to their crimes in order to lessen their punishment.
21 posted on 10/27/2002 12:52:11 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: anniegetyourgun; Sabertooth
..... Malvo, on the other hand, has no such story to lean on since he is an animist

Downright fascinating. Where did you get that information? Does this mean that Malvo is a follower of voodoo or santeria?

And BTW, has anyone actually seen the tarot card? There are several kinds of tarot decks, including a voodoo tarot which looks very different from others. I surfed around yesterday to see if I could find pictures online of voodoo tarot that depicted a duck and a noose, but could not find many pictures. But it had occurred to me that tarot, duck-noose imagery might be voodoo. Malvo had been in Haiti, where voodoo is practiced.

22 posted on 10/27/2002 1:15:00 PM PST by PoisedWoman
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To: PoisedWoman
From Washtimes article posted somewhere around here last week. He is certainly not a muslim but dabbles in occulting practices often seen in those carribean nations - voodoo mixed with Catholicism, etc. Could be why the call to the priest....who knows.
23 posted on 10/27/2002 1:21:10 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
Interesting. Voodoo is also popular in New Orleans. Didn't Mohammad grow up there?

I ran across this page while looking around.

http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Delta/1780/voodoo.htm

24 posted on 10/27/2002 2:58:25 PM PST by angkor
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To: PoisedWoman
Is Malvo an animist or a Moslem? There are threads here about the "5% Nation". Malvo used their special phrases in his communication with the police.

My guess is he's almost a Moslem, and is very aware of "5% Nation" materials.

In the end we will probably discover that he was a stone-coled killer that Mr. Muhammad brought up to "take care of some deals".

25 posted on 10/27/2002 5:24:52 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Sabertooth
More grist for the mill. This theory is plausible, I suppose, until you go from random killings to murdering an entire family. Once that happened, Muhammad would be Suspect #1.

Yeah, so he probably would have only killed his ex-wife. What a guy. Although I wouldn't downplay the Mohammedan angle either. It was probably a two-fer for him. Kill the infidels and get even with his wife.

26 posted on 10/27/2002 5:31:56 PM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: Catspaw
"And if one parent dies, the other person almost always gets custody as the surviving parent."

Not if you're living in a car having sex with a teen age boy.

27 posted on 10/27/2002 5:47:02 PM PST by blam
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To: TexKat
"Moose asked Blitzer why CNN did not report to LE that the sniper had made a phone call to them."

Mohammad called CNN?

28 posted on 10/27/2002 5:52:11 PM PST by blam
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Mohammad called CNN?

Yes, I guess when they could not get through to LE, they tried CNN, and CNN blew off the call thinking it was a prank.

29 posted on 10/27/2002 6:03:47 PM PST by TexKat
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To: PoisedWoman
The Montgomery, Alabama police chief was just on Fox News and said that there were three people at the liquor store robbery in Alabama.
The shooter there used a weapon other that the .223 rifle and he hinted that it may have been found in the car or elsewhere.
He said that Malvo and Mohammad were out of the car and that someone else was driving during the robbery, Nathinal Osborne?
They didn't realize that the 'blue' car was involved in the robbery and thought the person must have been a witness but, could not understand why the witness did not come forward even after they offered a reward. They understand now that the blue car and the driver were involved in the robbery.

I'm impressed with this police chief.
I expect more suprises in this case.

30 posted on 10/27/2002 6:07:28 PM PST by blam
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To: TexKat
"Yes, I guess when they could not get through to LE, they tried CNN, and CNN blew off the call thinking it was a prank."

Do you know how/when they discovered it was not a prank...code words?

31 posted on 10/27/2002 6:09:45 PM PST by blam
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Do you know how/when they discovered it was not a prank...code words?

No, I don't. But on CNN's Late Edition this morning, Wolf Blitzer was interviewing Executive Douglas M. Duncan, Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose, FBI agent Gary Bald.

During the interview Blitzer was asking Moose why did the LE not do or recognize something and Moose politely with a smile ask Blitzer why CNN did not report to LE that the snippers had called them. Blitzer had to admit that they had CNN had racked it up as a prank call.

32 posted on 10/27/2002 6:30:23 PM PST by TexKat
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To: TexKat
Moose and wife on Fox now.
33 posted on 10/27/2002 7:03:49 PM PST by TexKat
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To: blam
Are you watching Fox, Moose and wife on.
34 posted on 10/27/2002 7:12:55 PM PST by TexKat
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To: blam
Actually, it'd be up to her family that he was unfit, not he proving he was a fit parent--and all the while, he'd be collecting the children's social security checks.
35 posted on 10/28/2002 5:32:08 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: First_Salute
(A belated) thanks for the ping, Mike.

The fact that this man who must have traveled cross-country to the Washington DC area for some reason (the move of more than three thousand miles was not done as the result of a random whim) … combined with the fact that the killings seemed to ‘ring’ his ex wife’s Clinton, MD home …. is semi-compelling evidence that the deaths of the ten innocents may well have been simply used to set the stage for Mildred Green’s also (supposedly random, but actually strategically calculated) death.

It’s the theory that he planned to also target his three children that doesn’t sit well with me, for two reasons:

(1) There was a bitter custody battle over those children, and, after Mildred Green was awarded custody, Muhammed kidnapped them and took them out of the country. (Although, considering this man’s demented nature, I suppose that is not necessarily proof of a burning desire to have them with him. It could also simply have been proof of a burning desire to sadistically deprive her of them.)

(2) The killing of four people at one time (and all of them members of the same family) would not at all have fit the M.O. of the sniper. Muhammed, of all people, must have been well aware of that. If he intended to eventually target his family, he would have planned the 'set-up' to also include multiple simultaeous killings.

So, it seems that, if Green’s accusations are at all plausible (and they do seem to be, to a degree), I would dispute only the aspect that the three children were intended to be eventual victims. If indeed Mildred Green was the actual target, I believe she was the lone one – after which Muhammed might either have gained custody of his children once again (this time legally), or he may have simply been satisfied with doing away with the woman for whom he apparently harbored such hatred, and then allowed the children to be placed elsewhere, because their role as pawns in a game of vengeance had been played out.

Whatever his motivation was (this obscene plan, or another), it’s just a tragedy that thirteen innocents had to find themselves in his crosshairs.

36 posted on 10/29/2002 5:12:30 PM PST by joanie-f
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To: Sabertooth
Was this "divorce" madness?
37 posted on 10/29/2002 5:23:04 PM PST by Salvation
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